New Jersey Tanning Booth Mom

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I understand your point but do you really think that she is unfit to be a parent because of her tanning addiction (being if she really is addicted to tanning and the kid is not being forced or encouraged to tan)?

I would not know. I am not the one doing the investigation. The investigators will find whatever they find and determine whether her addiction poses a problem.

[Sciencewoman]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

It is not difficult to determine whether someone (a child in this instance) was in a tanning booth. If the child was only in the same room, and there is no excessive heat or anything to cause the child harm, I am sure they will get this cleared and taken care of. Tans are not difficult to detect and neither are the effects of tanning booths on the skin.

The girl showed up at school with a sunburn. I'm thinking that mom's excessive tanning raised a red flag with the school staff...but from what I've heard, the investigation began due to the daughter's sunburn, not her presence at the tanning salon and whether she was in the bed or just in the room.

[amIblue?]

It's been a very long time since I have visited a tanning bed, but is it even safe for another person to be in the room while one is on?

Sorry if this is a dumb question.

[DubaiSis]

The bed is closed so the other person in the room wouldn't get much UVA (according to the dermatologist I saw today on The View).

I went to a tanning bed exactly twice. The first time, whatever. The second time I got FuhRIED. And never again.

The thing that always pops into my mind is wouldn't it be funny if people who do that to themselves are also racist?

eta/oh and by the way, I have two sisters who have psoriasis. They both have gone through "light treatments" which is really just a stand up tanning bed. Except that if I'm remembering right, they would do the light treatments for something like 15 seconds. And this was under full medical supervision, in a doctor's office. They were told to get real sun, VERY important, but never more than 15 minutes. This all just screams to me the typical American thing of taking something good and overdoing it to the point of being very very bad.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by DubaiSis

The thing that always pops into my mind is wouldn't it be funny if people who do that to themselves are also racist?

What?

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by Sciencewoman

The girl showed up at school with a sunburn. I'm thinking that mom's excessive tanning raised a red flag with the school staff...but from what I've heard, the investigation began due to the daughter's sunburn, not her presence at the tanning salon and whether she was in the bed or just in the room.

My son got his worst sun burn ever while on a school field trip at this time of year, even though I had sent sun screen with him. A sunburn isn't proof of anything. If nobody saw the kid in a tanning booth, I don't how they'd prove anything. I suppose if the kid had no tan lines, that would be suspicious.

What bothers me about this is along the lines of what Pika is saying... there are kids in homes without heat in the winter, without running water, who are being abused severely, who were sexually abused for years by a stepfather who is still in the house but has stopped and, in comparison, this is pretty minor. Yes, this woman is a freak. Even if she did let the kid try out the tanning booth, I'm not convinced the kid should be removed from the home.

[Sciencewoman]

Someone must have interviewed the child, don't you think, before it went this far?

In the same way this story has garnered so much attention, I think the mom must have been the subject of gossip around the school and that just invited suspicion in this area.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by Sciencewoman

Someone must have interviewed the child, don't you think, before it went this far?

In the same way this story has garnered so much attention, I think the mom must have been the subject of gossip around the school and that just invited suspicion in this area.

In the report I heard, the kid had said that she goes to the tanning booth with mommy. That's technically correct even if she doesn't go inside the apparatus though. Even if she did, I would say that maybe she needs to be educated and warned, but not have the child removed from the home.

[WCsweet<3]

I was reading a different article about the tanning craze and this quote reminded me of the woman:
"'Indoor tanning is like smoking for your skin,' Dr. Doris Day, a dermatologist at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City"

I'd say this is just about right with her...

[PeppyGPhiB]

I saw footage of the daughter: red head with super pale skin. It would not be hard for her to get a sunburn from just going outside in the hot sun for a half-hour.

[VandalSquirrel]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1072017

This article had my favorite comment about her.

"Krentcil later dodged reporters at her Nutley home, hiding a brownish-orange face nearly as leathery as her black jacket."

At the end her husband states she adds makeup to look even darker, which wouldn't account for the texture and condition of her skin.

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Jeebus be the UV light of the world.

I'm a little ashamed at how hard this made me laugh.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

No, everything that is made darker is not blackface. Blackface is a historical and contemporary intentional process of darkening one's skin to imitate, mimick, and mock.

Did you mean this to be "or?" Because IIRC but I once said that something didn't qualify as blackface because it was imitating but not mocking and you said I was wrong. *raised eyebrow*

Can she not look like a ruddy potato? Please and thank you,.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

Did you mean this to be "or?"

No.

Originally Posted by christiangirl

Because IIRC but I once said that something didn't qualify as blackface because it was imitating but not mocking and you said I was wrong.

How does that conflict with my use of "and" rather than "or"?

Are you talking about this thread in which Senusret and I said it is not about intent to disparage? There is no "Blackface Formula" (my use of "and" versus "or" is inconsequential). Whether or not something is blackface is not based on whether someone thought they were imitating (I guess in admiration) rather than mocking. The outcome if interracial imitation is usually a mockery because people consider it unnecessary and offensive.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

LOL.

No, everything that is made darker is not blackface. Blackface is a historical and contemporary intentional process of darkening one's skin to imitate, mimick, and mock. It is not flattery.

It looks like blackface at the surface but it is not blackface. If this could be considered blackface, I would say that all people of the white diaspora (those who are relatively light or consider themselves pale) and do things to make their skin darker are doing so to imitate, mimick, and mock the browner and blacker people in this world.

The situation that *really* confused me as to whether it counted blackface was Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder. In short Robert Downey Jr. (White) in the film plays an method actor Kirk Lazarus (White) who has himself surgically altered to appear black so he can properly play a role in the Movie within a Movie. But they apparently pre-screened it for black journalists and officers of the NAACP who found it OK. Apparently it was considerred to imitate, mimick and mock method actors (regardless or race)...

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by naraht

The situation that *really* confused me as to whether it counted blackface was Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder. In short Robert Downey Jr. (White) in the film plays an method actor Kirk Lazarus (White) who has himself surgically altered to appear black so he can properly play a role in the Movie within a Movie.

I am quite familiar with the awesomeness of Tropic Thunder. Great movie with two of the most hilarious scenes in movie history: Jack Black's "Don't Judge Me" and Tom Cruise dancing to Luda.



People who know the movie know that the whole point behind Kirk Lazarus IS blackface. LOL. That's the point. That's what the REAL Black actor Alpa Chino played by Brandon T. Jackson is pissed off and harassing Lazarus about. He keeps telling Lazarus that he is not really Black and has on makeup. That's the funny part about Downey, Jr.'s contribution to the movie. Blackface to ridicule blackface.


/How in the hell did this become a blackface thread?