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06-26-2011, 06:24 PM
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The problem with bigotry is it has become political. When gay marriage is no longer a political issue and more of a personal opinion then it becomes easier to separates the bigots from the others.
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Nah, I disagree. I think it's pretty easy to tell. There's an underlying bigotry in even the political positions. Kind of similar to the underlying misogyny and classism in cutting funding to Planned Parenthood when none of the funding goes towards abortions. It's not really political it's ideological and it's still bigotry.
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06-26-2011, 07:41 PM
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Nah, I disagree. I think it's pretty easy to tell. There's an underlying bigotry in even the political positions. Kind of similar to the underlying misogyny and classism in cutting funding to Planned Parenthood when none of the funding goes towards abortions. It's not really political it's ideological and it's still bigotry.
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Is it misogyny, or is it "Because this side supports it, I'm gonna vilify it so I can get elected?"
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06-26-2011, 07:51 PM
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Is it misogyny, or is it "Because this side supports it, I'm gonna vilify it so I can get elected?"
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If you're willing to throw basic healthcare for women out the window for a political point, you're being misogynistic. If you're willing to throw basic healthcare for poor women in particular out the window you're also being classist.
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06-27-2011, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Drolefille
If you're willing to throw basic healthcare for women out the window for a political point, you're being misogynistic. If you're willing to throw basic healthcare for poor women in particular out the window you're also being classist.
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If you're willing to think that its your money to do whatever you please with, then you're stupid.
If you support Planned Parenthood...give money to it! But don't make me pay for it. Same goes for every service paid for by the government.
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Overall, though, it's the bigness of the car that counts the most. Because when something bad happens in a really big car accidentally speeding through the middle of a gang of unruly young people who have been taunting you in a drive-in restaurant, for instance it happens very far away way out at the end of your fenders. It's like a civil war in Africa; you know, it doesn't really concern you too much. - P.J. O'Rourke
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06-26-2011, 06:58 PM
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it's too bad the governnment feels it has any business in marriage at all.
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Overall, though, it's the bigness of the car that counts the most. Because when something bad happens in a really big car accidentally speeding through the middle of a gang of unruly young people who have been taunting you in a drive-in restaurant, for instance it happens very far away way out at the end of your fenders. It's like a civil war in Africa; you know, it doesn't really concern you too much. - P.J. O'Rourke
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06-26-2011, 08:02 PM
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Everyone judges, and everyone sins. Everyone.
It says in Romans 3:23 that we all fall short. It aggravates me when people try to push their opinions on someone else as if their way is the right way and the only way. That's dumb. Although I believe that a man is for a woman and a woman is for a man, I don't have a problem with same sex relationships. If that's what makes them happy and it's not affecting you, then leave them alone and worry about your own.
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06-26-2011, 09:19 PM
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I had my first debate that became an argument (because the person really really really wanted something to be angry about) regarding this. I said what I had to say and let the person rant, rave, and get angry on their own. It was actually quite predictable and amusing from start to finish. Everything this person said was so cliche` that I just sat on the phone while watching HGTV.
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06-26-2011, 09:40 PM
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I had my first debate that became an argument (because the person really really really wanted something to be angry about) regarding this. I said what I had to say and let the person rant, rave, and get angry on their own. It was actually quite predictable and amusing from start to finish. Everything this person said was so cliche` that I just sat on the phone while watching HGTV.
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I missed something.
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06-26-2011, 09:42 PM
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I missed something.
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Good for you.
ETA: Are you just sharing that you missed something or are you expecting something in return? LOL.
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06-26-2011, 09:53 PM
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If homosexuality is a sin, Why Can't I Own a Canadian?
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06-26-2011, 10:05 PM
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I love the West Wing episode that is linked at the end.
I would email that episode to some people but I'm going to leave people alone for right now.
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06-27-2011, 01:52 AM
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I love the West Wing episode that is linked at the end.
I would email that episode to some people but I'm going to leave people alone for right now.
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One of my favorite early West Wing bits.
I need to watch more of that show.
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06-27-2011, 05:35 AM
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I'm still mad at the hyperbole that people actually believe allowing two people who aren't a man and a woman to get married would force their church to perform the ceremony. A hetero couple can't go into any house of worship or faith and demand to be married, so why would that be any different for any other couple? Even for people who follow or practice a faith that are an opposite sex couple can't get married just for being baptized or members.
Maybe California will get it right this time and not let outside money from the Land of Zion influence the state vote.
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06-27-2011, 07:19 AM
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I'm still mad at the hyperbole that people actually believe allowing two people who aren't a man and a woman to get married would force their church to perform the ceremony. A hetero couple can't go into any house of worship or faith and demand to be married, so why would that be any different for any other couple? Even for people who follow or practice a faith that are an opposite sex couple can't get married just for being baptized or members.
Maybe California will get it right this time and not let outside money from the Land of Zion influence the state vote.
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Politics and lawsuits.
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06-27-2011, 08:15 AM
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Want the Catholic Church to stop begging for the right to not adopt to gay couples and then screeching discrimination when they're being paid state money. They can't refuse to adopt to non-Catholics, why should they be allowed to discriminate on state time.
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Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel
I'm still mad at the hyperbole that people actually believe allowing two people who aren't a man and a woman to get married would force their church to perform the ceremony. A hetero couple can't go into any house of worship or faith and demand to be married, so why would that be any different for any other couple? Even for people who follow or practice a faith that are an opposite sex couple can't get married just for being baptized or members.
Maybe California will get it right this time and not let outside money from the Land of Zion influence the state vote.
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