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03-19-2011, 03:22 AM
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Why should I take my letters off to drink? My alumni say it best: "Don't do anything in your letters that you wouldn't do out of them."
If I get trashed right now, every soul at this school knows I'm a SigEp. Doesn't make a difference.
No matter the age, though, I don't let drinks get in my pictures. I need to look presentable to corporate FB creepers, duh! On top of that, I'm an employee of the University.
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03-19-2011, 10:40 AM
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Actually after thinking about it, I guess we could be considered dry because we aren't allowed to have drinking at our events or in our house. Are all NPC considered dry? I've never really asked before.
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All NPC facilities are supposed to be dry. As for the organizations themselves, no, none of them are. If chapters choose to pass chapter policies prohibiting any members to drink at any function, that's their business (although I've never heard of such a thing).
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If I get trashed right now, every soul at this school knows I'm a SigEp. Doesn't make a difference.
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Yeah, that's why this whole debate is really ridiculous to most people from small schools.
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03-19-2011, 11:24 AM
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Yeah, that's why this whole debate is really ridiculous to most people from small schools.
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Yea, that's definitely a big part of it.
My alma mater had ~25k students (33k now), so lots of non-Greeks had no idea what was going on in our bubble.
On top of that -- as much as I love my organization, I did/do have a life outside of it. Because I had to represent other things at non-Greek functions, it wasn't a big deal for me to "not be ODPhi" from time to time, and as such, I wasn't wearing letters 24/7. Unless I was at a specific Greek social function, I was just "k_s," not "odphi_k_s"
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03-19-2011, 12:27 PM
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I know in Knoxville whenever the girls bring out cameras, the solo cup disappears
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03-19-2011, 12:36 PM
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I know in Knoxville whenever the girls bring out cameras, the solo cup disappears
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And that has more to do with not being able to use the picture for any recruitment videos, websites, (Inter)National magazines, etc if it turnsout to be a cute picture. The solo cup is assumed to be holding alcohol even if it just holds water so our organizations won't publish pictures including them in our magazines. No use ruining a perfectly good picture because of a stupid solo cup!
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03-19-2011, 12:49 PM
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And that has more to do with not being able to use the picture for any recruitment videos, websites, (Inter)National magazines, etc if it turnsout to be a cute picture. The solo cup is assumed to be holding alcohol even if it just holds water so our organizations won't publish pictures including them in our magazines. No use ruining a perfectly good picture because of a stupid solo cup!
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haha definitely. It was more just a joke. I very rarely see girls consuming in their letters, though. Only a couple times do I remember it, and they were hammered to the point they just didn't care.
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03-19-2011, 12:52 PM
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Before a competition we were warming up with a sorority in full costume. There was a gatorade jug of water and solo cups. As soon as the cameras came out, every cup found a table.
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03-19-2011, 01:24 PM
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Before a competition we were warming up with a sorority in full costume. There was a gatorade jug of water and solo cups. As soon as the cameras came out, every cup found a table.
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LOL. We had lots of weird chapter rules about drinks when I was in school. Couldn't dance with a drink in your hand. It was helpful to not slosh drinks on people while you did the "YMCA" dance, but the rush of AOIIs to a table to dump their drinks when they heard the refrains of a favorite song was like a stampede!
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03-19-2011, 01:35 PM
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Ha at this thread and its redundancy. Are folks still drinking liquor out of solo cups post-graduation? I hope not.
I'm all for being responsible drinkers. If you are teetering on the line of enjoying a glass of wine and letting EVERYONE know you're enjoying it in mass quantities, you (or another member) should aim to remove said letters/badges and/or tell you to have a seat.
I totally get the RM side of it, and the gray area of allowing exceptions. However, greek members on the undergraduate level are undergraduates. Generally, college students drink, some more than others. It shouldn't shock and awe anyone if a group of girls/guys walk into a bar in 6" XYZ letters.
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03-19-2011, 01:56 PM
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And that has more to do with not being able to use the picture for any recruitment videos, websites, (Inter)National magazines, etc if it turnsout to be a cute picture. The solo cup is assumed to be holding alcohol even if it just holds water so our organizations won't publish pictures including them in our magazines. No use ruining a perfectly good picture because of a stupid solo cup!
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That's why everyone should just start drinking straight vodka out of Evian water bottles.
Even if you're at a big school, drinking in letters communicates a message about the whole Greek system to those who aren't Greek, especially when there's an acrimonious attitude towards Greek life in the first place.
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03-19-2011, 02:09 PM
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When a camera pops out, every drink in our hand drops. It's not just NPC sororities. :P
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03-19-2011, 03:40 PM
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When a camera pops out, every drink in our hand drops. It's not just NPC sororities. :P
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yeah...I don't have that kind of personal responsibility
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03-20-2011, 08:12 PM
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Back about 15 years ago, I was at a reception for a professional society with which my parents were involved. A photographer snapped a candid shot that included my parents, a couple of their colleagues, my then-fiance, and me. We were all holding drinks. The picture came out so well that it was published in the society's next newsletter........ and the drinks had been Photoshopped out. That's what Photoshop is for, people.
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03-21-2011, 12:20 AM
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[QUOTE=33girl;2039582]All NPC facilities are supposed to be dry. As for the organizations themselves, no, none of them are. If chapters choose to pass chapter policies prohibiting any members to drink at any function, that's their business (although I've never heard of such a thing).
Ah, thank you!
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03-21-2011, 08:04 AM
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Thing is we've shown that this ban on alcohol in letters is, for most if not all NPC orgs, done on a campus by campus basis and not a national thing at all. And it seems to work out just fine.
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For AST, it is on a national level. But of course, I can't speak for all of the other NPCs/GLOs.
Personally, I think that the justification for this rule includes 3 main reasons:
1) It's a risk management issue
2) It perpetuates the stereotype
3) It's disrespecful
However, the how or why isn't really that important. As DrPhil said, worry only about yourself.
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For some reason, the first thing that I thought of was that episode of Fresh Prince...
http://m.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&cli...&v=rdSWk6RerQ0
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