Texas A&M Recruitment...as a junior?

[agzg]

Originally Posted by Just interested

It's not that they can't snap bid. The girls can fill to quota. It's just the principle that this girl took a spot from someone. Lucky for the snap bid girl I guess but still...

But... then she's not taking it from anyone. Pledging then dropping out before initiation would be taking it from someone.

I mean, I guess had she never put them on her pref card at all then it *might* have changed the way the cards fell in terms of who got bids to where but that's a big "might" since we don't know the order of the bid lists or who got what where anyhow.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Just interested

It's not that they can't snap bid. The girls can fill to quota. It's just the principle that this girl took a spot from someone. Lucky for the snap bid girl I guess but still...

If the chapter is having as much trouble w/ numbers as the OP says then whether she "took" a spot is most likely a moot point. There are plenty of spots beyond quota and up to total to fill.

And if the chapter has to give out bids/a girl has to accept a bid the weekend or any other time after bid day? Sorry but boo freaking hoo. Trust me, you're not going to be wandering around with paper bags on your feet when you're 50 saying "I could have had a great life if I'd only gone to bid day!!" What you get out of it over the years is the important thing.

[Psi U MC Vito]

See I never understood rejecting a bid on bid day. If you are stuck anyway for a year, why not try out the organization for a little bit?

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by agzg

But... then she's not taking it from anyone. Pledging then dropping out before initiation would be taking it from someone.

I mean, I guess had she never put them on her pref card at all then it *might* have changed the way the cards fell in terms of who got bids to where but that's a big "might" since we don't know the order of the bid lists or who got what where anyhow.

While it's possible to snap after someone declines, it's better if you can do so before the bids are handed out, or before bid day activities start so that the snapped member doesn't feel apart from her pledge class.

She got the bid, and then declined and though that chapter could bid to quota/total still, they thought they were offering a bid to someone who wanted them.

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

See I never understood rejecting a bid on bid day. If you are stuck anyway for a year, why not try out the organization for a little bit?

It's not always a matter of logic.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

See I never understood rejecting a bid on bid day. If you are stuck anyway for a year, why not try out the organization for a little bit?

Because then everyone will see you walking around as an XYZ pledge and get that image in their mind. I honestly think T A & M is big enough for that to not be an issue, but I could be wrong.

Oh, and 3 words: nonrefundable pledge fee. These are on the steep side sometimes.

She should have suicided, but she didn't. End of story.

[lucgreek]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

See I never understood rejecting a bid on bid day. If you are stuck anyway for a year, why not try out the organization for a little bit?

Essentially, you're used goods if you end up leaving. Susie Q pledged XYZ and dropped, do we really want her in ABC? At huge schools this might not be as noticeable, but if you're the only person who does this then you'll probably stand out. Even if you dropped for the best reasons, there is still doubt about the person.

Additionally to the OP, if you didn't get the house you wanted as a sophomore, what makes you think you'll be selected the next time around?

[EE-BO]

Originally Posted by lucgreek

Essentially, you're used goods if you end up leaving. Susie Q pledged XYZ and dropped, do we really want her in ABC? At huge schools this might not be as noticeable, but if you're the only person who does this then you'll probably stand out. Even if you dropped for the best reasons, there is still doubt about the person.

This is a key point. No way am I gonna tell it here, but at Texas in my day there was a choice series of events with someone who dropped during pledgeship and went somewhere else the next year. What happened gave a lesson for years to come in the perils of picking up a pledge who dropped out during pledgeship at another chapter.

Neither is an ideal option, but generally I think a second time rushee is FAR better off having dropped out of rush than having quit during pledgeship.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by lucgreek

Additionally to the OP, if you didn't get the house you wanted as a sophomore, what makes you think you'll be selected the next time around?

This is a good point.

Often PNMs think that re-rushing will = better results and different invites the 2nd time.

This is not always the case (esp. at a school like A&M).

[amperches]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

This is a good point.

Often PNMs think that re-rushing will = better results and different invites the 2nd time.

This is not always the case (esp. at a school like A&M).

It's not that I think i'll have better results this time, but I know I'll be better prepared and know what to expect. I do expect to have to work harder, but hopefully the harder I work, the more it will end up paying off.

Also, I know I was not the only girl to drop out on Bid Day. I understand that I have to wait another year now, but during this year, I hope to focus more on school and other extracurriculars.

[aggieAXO]

I am not sure if this is still the case but when I went through rush you could suicide but if you did not get your choice chapter then you were not allowed to snap bid to another chapter (you had to wait 1 calender year before being able to be free to rush again). Basically it seemed like they tried to punish you for suiciding. I had some friends that did suicide and luckily they ended up with their #1 choice. I rushed with several of my friends and being juniors -it was our last chance to join.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by lucgreek

Essentially, you're used goods if you end up leaving. Susie Q pledged XYZ and dropped, do we really want her in ABC? At huge schools this might not be as noticeable, but if you're the only person who does this then you'll probably stand out. Even if you dropped for the best reasons, there is still doubt about the person.

Additionally to the OP, if you didn't get the house you wanted as a sophomore, what makes you think you'll be selected the next time around?

FWIW I don't know how pledging then dropping would effect chances on that campus but on mine it didn't seem to be a big deal. I can think of several people who did just that, though I don't know that any were juniors.

[pabeta1530]

The only way that's going to happen is you becoming Paris Hilton, or someone similar. Sorry, darlin', but your time has passed like a carton of eggs few days after the expiration date. (No umbrage extended.)

[agzg]

Originally Posted by pabeta1530

The only way that's going to happen is you becoming Paris Hilton, or someone similar. Sorry, darlin', but your time has passed like a carton of eggs few days after the expiration date. (No umbrage extended.)

Find a better person than Paris Hilton - being busted for cocaine posession is not an attractive quality in a PNM.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by agzg

Find a better person than Paris Hilton - being busted for cocaine posession is not an attractive quality in a PNM.

But...but...it wasn't hers...someone just put it there. Wah.

Sadly, I bet she'd get a bid somewhere because she's famous but god almighty I can't imagine what a risk management issue she'd be.

[Texasmom15]

My daughter just finished recruitment, successfully.

She enjoyed the recruitment process but in the end called me in tears saying she felt forced to suicide. She never thought she would be faced with this decision, it was a tough decision for her to make.

She cut one house all three rounds and still ended up being invited to their pref party. If this house had not been on her pref list she would have "maximized her options", but she really felt she was not a match for this one group.

I understand this is a mutual selection process, but cutting a house 3 times and still having them show up on pref night does not make it feel very mutual to the PNM.

Could the process maybe be modified so that if a PNM cut a house 3 rounds they don't have the option of inviting her to pref. My daughter lived through the suicide process but had she not gotten her bid she would have eliminated her options for snap bids, COB etc.

I am new to Greek Life in general so I could be misunderstanding the process - interested in the opinions of those that have more experience.

Thanks.