Establishing a new sorority on campus.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by Matsimela

And what exactly is ironic about my beloved organization celebrating its 13th anniversary on March 9, 2010? How does asking this young lady to examine why she would chose to found a new sorority rather than join an existing one (whether by joining an active chapter or by chartering a chapter) constitute chastising?

My Org's history has nothing to do with my beloved Nine Black Diamonds suffering from 'founderitis'

Thank you though for taking the time out to look up my sorority's founding date in an attempt to disrespect my org, my Soror and me.

*no beef though, its only the internet*

Don't explain yourself. If the cow understood the history and expansion of multicultural sororities 13 years ago, she wouldn't have tried to clown.

Plus, Yale> wherever she went.

[DiamondAthena]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Don't explain yourself. If the cow understood the history and expansion of multicultural sororities 13 years ago, she wouldn't have tried to clown.

Plus, Yale> wherever she went.

THIS!

[Barbie's_Rush]

Originally Posted by Matsimela

I'm just curious why you would want to start a new organization? What would be your purpose in doing so other than not having to go through rush/intake/whatever the pc term is? What are you bringing that no other organization has to offer and based on that, why does it need to be a sorority rather than a regular student org?

Honestly, there are hundreds of greek letter organizations out there. I can't even imagine what reason anyone in the year 2010 would have to start something new. (And i mean that in the nicest way possible)

Oh yeah, because things were sooooooo different in 1997. How could anyone possibly have a reason to start another sorority in 2010? If you don’t think it’s remotely condescending and ironic for a member of a very young organization to say this to someone, then you really are ridiculously sensitive. If you, Sen or anyone else wants to run around like a couple of chickens, flapping your wings and clucking about your organization being disrespected, please be my guest.

For the record, I also find the recent onslaught of self-entitled whiners very tiresome. Even though this individual didn’t fully articulate her reasons for wanting to found a sorority, it doesn’t mean her possible reasons are any less legitimate than those of the founders of any other organization.


PS/ Just because your founders attended Yale does not mean the members of your organization are any more illustrious than those of any other GLO.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Barbie's_Rush

Oh yeah, because things were sooooooo different in 1997. How could anyone possibly have a reason to start another sorority in 2010? If you don’t think it’s remotely condescending and ironic for a member of a very young organization to say this to someone, then you really are ridiculously sensitive. If you, Sen or anyone else wants to run around like a couple of chickens, flapping your wings and clucking about your organization being disrespected, please be my guest.

For the record, I also find the recent onslaught of self-entitled whiners very tiresome. Even though this individual didn’t fully articulate her reasons for wanting to found a sorority, it doesn’t mean her possible reasons are any less legitimate than those of the founders of any other organization.


PS/ Just because your founders attended Yale does not mean the members of your organization are any more illustrious than those of any other GLO.

Who are you?

If you knew anything about the LGLO and MCGLO Greek movements, your ass wouldn't be talking.

[Barbie's_Rush]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Who are you?

If you knew anything about the LGLO and MCGLO Greek movements, your ass wouldn't be talking.

For the last time, I am not speaking abou MCGLO, LGLO or any other GLO so stop being so danged defensive. I am talking about there being possible reasons for founding a new organization at any point in history. 2010 is no different than 1997 than 1900 than 1875. The founders of every group did so because they saw a specific need that wasn't being fulfilled at that point in time.

People have issues and needs depending on their life situations, which may or may not have anything to do with culture, religion, race, gender orientation or anything else. If someone wants to start a sorority because they seek the bonds of sisterhood with other women who are 47 year old mothers of 13 children who have three warts on their nose and live in oak trees, go for it.

We just don't know WHY the OP didn't find an organization that she felt suited her needs because she didn't give us the specifics. Her reasons may be lofty or as ridiculous as being dropped by all chapters during the recruitment process at her school. So I think it's wrong for people to categorically believe that since their organizations exist, no others may need to be founded to suit the same or other needs. The posts I was calling out were dismissive and smacked of "we're here so there's no possible reason now for ever thinking about founding any new GLO."

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Barbie's_Rush

For the last time, I am not speaking abou MCGLO, LGLO or any other GLO so stop being so danged defensive.

Really?

Originally Posted by Barbie's_Rush

Of course the most interesting irony of this thread is that two of the people chastising the OP belong to a small sorority that hasn't even had its 13th anniversary yet. I wonder if their founders had a case of founderitis too?

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2010 is no different than 1997 than 1900 than 1875.

You are very naive.

[MysticCat]

Sorry guys, but Barbie's Rush has a reasonable point -- that presumably all of our founders had valid reasons for wanting to start new organizations whether 150 years ago or 15 years ago. If there were valid reasons to want to start a new org 15 years ago, why is it completely unthinkable that there might be a valid reason to start a new org now?

The OP didn't say why she thinks she should start a new org, although her "I thought why not start a new one" did sound a bit less than thoughtful and similar to other threads we've seen lately. But it is possible that she has a good a reason as any of our founders, including the founders of newer organizations. And I think that's all Barbie's Rush was saying.

[Matsimela]

Her second or third post had a point. Not the 1st. And I agree. It is possible for someone to find a reason to start a new org (plenty of people are still doing it). My whole thing is if after you've researched every org out there and still can't find anything then and only then should you look into starting a new sorority. All the things i asked the OP are the basic questions that you should ask yourself before undertaking the arduous task of starting a new sorority, IMO.

But i still maintain that there is a sorority for pretty much everything, whether they be social or otherwise. I still wanna hear from the OP, she hasnt been back yet

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Matsimela

But i still maintain that there is a sorority for pretty much everything, whether they be social or otherwise. I still wanna hear from the OP, she hasnt been back yet

While there may not be Greek organizations to cover EVERY niche, there are groups out there for everyone.

If, as Barbie stated in a previous post, 47 year old mothers wanted to create an organization, no one is trying to stop them, but why does the organization NEED to be a sorority?

[Matsimela]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

While there may not be Greek organizations to cover EVERY niche, there are groups out there for everyone.

If, as Barbie stated in a previous post, 47 year old mothers wanted to create an organization, no one is trying to stop them, but why does the organization NEED to be a sorority?

That was my other point lol

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Matsimela

That was my other point lol

I think we're on the same page

[DiamondAthena]

hell I just wanted to know if she had in fact done the research. I am a chapter founder and I know that someone had to tell me that you are not limited to what is on your campus! Expansion is an option. Just putting it out there. Not trying to recruit, chastise, or criticize. Honestly my particular affiliation is irrelevent, with regards to my point.

[Ch2tf]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Don't come on this board fucking up our Umoja. WE GOT LETTERS. You got dreams.

LMAO. A great way to start my Sunday morning.

[dreamseeker]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Sorry guys, but Barbie's Rush has a reasonable point -- that presumably all of our founders had valid reasons for wanting to start new organizations whether 150 years ago or 15 years ago. If there were valid reasons to want to start a new org 15 years ago, why is it completely unthinkable that there might be a valid reason to start a new org now?

The OP didn't say why she thinks she should start a new org, although her "I thought why not start a new one" did sound a bit less than thoughtful and similar to other threads we've seen lately. But it is possible that she has a good a reason as any of our founders, including the founders of newer organizations. And I think that's all Barbie's Rush was saying.

true, but saying this

Originally Posted by Barbie's_Rush

2010 is no different than 1997 than 1900 than 1875.

was prolly the stupidest way to say it. and THEN on top of that to try to call out younger orgs just shot her credibility to hell and makes her come off as an asshole.

[APiPhiHottie]

As a founder of a local canadian organization, which is exactly one year old, I always always always encourage young women who want to "found" a new sorority to check out the existing chapters at their school.

Before Alpha Pi Phi was born myself, and two other founders (out of six), consider rushing other organizations before coming to the conclusion that a new organization was needed on campus (which, evidently, blossomed out of our friendship). The greek community at our school is pretty small (two NPC's - which were not open to expansion, as far as we knew at the time - and 4 locals), and the need for a new sorority was pretty evident during both of our rush periods this year - we had an amazing, quality turnouts in September and January.

Creating a new organization is a very difficult, time consuming and expensive thing to do. It requires a lot of dedication from all founders and, obviously, is not something an individual can do by themselves. I've easily spent an upwards of 2000$ on my organization in one year (out of my savings), along with a lot of time and printer ink :-P I don't regret it and would do it all over again in a heartbeat - but it's not something I would encourage an individual to attempt to "start" if they have not seriously looked into other organizations which already exist on their campus.

If you do decide to go through with it and create a new organization, I strongly suggest you to be on the look out for a few other solid founders, take classes part time next semester and save up a few grand... good luck!