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10-18-2001, 02:56 PM
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Well, I agree what you're saying, to an extent. Yes, some people are more attractive than others, and it would be foolish to pretend that that is not true. Yes, I will admit that I also make judgments based on someone's appearance, i.e., I would not date someone I found unattractive, nor would I even consider it, to be completely honest. I'm not saying that attractiveness can't or shouldn't be discussed; there's nothing wrong with me sitting around all day talking about how Kobe Bryant is a total hottie, for example.
However, my probem is with the way these guys are acting, in that it is designed to make the unattractive women feel bad about themselves; it is treating people as objects used for amusement with no regard for their feelings. I also have a problem with the fact that these guys seem to be trying to build themselves up by tearing down others. That is just wrong. You can sit around with your fraternity brothers and talk about how XYZs are totally hot. You can even sit around and talk about how ABCs are gross, dorky, ugly, fat or whatever. I have no problem with any of that. I do have a problem with inviting the ABCs over for the sole purpose of making fun of them or trying to hook up with the ugliest one to win some sort of "award" or money. That is pathetic and just plain wrong. If you think the ABCs are ugly "pigs" or whatever -- don't hang out with them!
This reminds me of when I had friends over when I was in about sixth grade and there was this dorky girl that we didn't like. We invited her over and when she rang the bell, we giggled and didn't answer the door. Obviously that made her feel terrible, because she was the brunt of our cruel joke. I learned that I should never, ever treat people like that again. It's funny that I learned that in SIXTH grade, and these guys are in college and have yet to get it.
I think that what I'm saying doesn't apply only to looks. For example, I think it would be equally terrible for, say, a bunch of Mensa members to invite over people with far less intellectual ability to discuss recent Supreme Court decisions or physics or whatever, and then make fun of them when they can't follow the discussion.
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10-18-2001, 04:12 PM
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DUM DAM DUM!!!
These people show a tremendous amount of class, third though it may be! Or some of the most class less people that I would ever want to be associated with! OR NOT
Not everyone is dead drop beautifal or built like the proverbial brick wall or the Eistein of there age group!
I am about as normal as can be! But KSig and SCard may differ with that!
If I have to hurt someones feelings to be a BMOC then I would be crawling on the ground like a SLUG!
I might see some PRETTY BOY doing this, but a whole Chapter
One Of My Favorite Words IS MORON and I think it would fit this situation very aptly and the supposedly the persons who would lowere themselves to this standard!
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10-18-2001, 04:42 PM
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Right on and AMEN, Tom!
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If I have to hurt someones feelings to be a BMOC then I would be crawling on the ground like a SLUG!
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Well said!
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10-18-2001, 05:56 PM
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Well put - that's pretty much my point too, just venting on the social stigma applied to meteing out 'attractiveness' standards.
People are retarded - I'm comfortable just leaving it at that, and I'd say it applies here too. No reason to ever intentionally make someone feel poorly about themselves.
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10-19-2001, 08:11 AM
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So much damage from a party like this... No person goes through life without a label attached to them be it pretty, smart, funny,
gross etc. It's easier to lump people in a category than to really get to know them. What you find attractive, another may find as
plain. People can act like sheep and if someone in the "in crowd" proclaims another to be dull or ugly or fun and gorgeous it can become the label that person lives with until they leave that environment.It happens all through life starting with who you will sit by in grade school to who you invite to join your foursome as an adult. It will never end. If everyone in your group(but you) thinks someone is a "geek", will you go against popular opinion? I never was attracted to the bulging bicepts type but many of my friends were. I liked a different physique and found intelligence the most sexy quality a person could possess. My friends came from ALL walks of life and while others categorized them, it didn't matter to me. So, I would say, it's up to individuals to change. When you have a pack mentality as illustrated by parties of this nature, recognize it for what it is. It is a fact of life. It's up to you
to walk away and/or stand up for what you know is right and KIND. As a side note, if anyone had invited me to a party like that, well-"HELL HATH NO FURY..."
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10-19-2001, 04:18 PM
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Just remember, the Tri LAMBDAS WON in the revenge of the Nerds!!!!
My Heros only second to Delta Tau Chi at Faber!!!!!!
Cogito Ergo Sum
Not I Think I be Cool!
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10-19-2001, 07:28 PM
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To resolve all this...
Perhaps the Mensa members should invite the people giving the pig party over. Talk about turning the tables.
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10-19-2001, 07:42 PM
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But the whole concept sounds like a lot of fun doesn't it? And if it was done to me because I was out of shape or whatever. I would probbaly work really hard at becoming in good shape . . . the best revenge is living well.
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10-19-2001, 09:12 PM
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[BThey also have a seperate lists where each brother writes down the name of the sorority girl they hooked-up with. It's almost like their brag list. I really hope that's not true. [/B]
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The (insert sarcasm here) most popular sorority on my campus does something similar. They have a wall in their house where they have little cut-out paper men which have on them the names of guys they have hooked up with. IMHO, this is disgusting! I'm all about women's lib or whatever, but I think that a woman can be liberated and classy at the same time.
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10-20-2001, 01:47 AM
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There is a French movie from a couple of years ago, I think it was called "The Dinner Club" or something like that, where a group of men meets for dinner and has to bring the _____iest date. While the premise is rather sick the movie is quite entertaining.
Laura
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