pledges dropping at the end

LET THEM DROP!!!

I have made numerous lines, some have dropped on their crossing night. Why would you even have to discuss whether or not to try to make them stay? If their line bros cant convince them to stay, then why would you?
If they cant handle being on line, then how can they possibly handle doing anything being a member? Pledging on a line is to prepare you for whats in store inside the organization so if you cant handle the line.............


OK, I just read where it was their grades. When I was on line, we had set library hours where we had to study and do our work. I had a 3.75 GPA when I was on line. Apparently, they are doing too much sleeping instead of studying. Sleeping was a luxury on line.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by LadyTical

LET THEM DROP!!!

Pledging on a line is to prepare you for whats in store inside the organization so if you cant handle the line.............

Did I miss something? I didn't think he was talking about that type of process.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

Did I miss something? I didn't think he was talking about that type of process.

You didn't miss anything; LadyTical did.

LadyTical, seeing as how the fraternity in question is Zeta Psi, I don't know that I'd say they were "on line." The OP was talking about a pledge process that is different from what you are used to and familiar with. The advice given him earlier in this thread and the action taken by his chapter were appropriate for the pledge process in his fraternity.

[WaxOff]

Originally Posted by zppsf1987

just out of curiosity, how did that work? did he repeat all of the pledging process, even what he had done before? seems like it might be hard to convince someone to do that

He did. The rules of the Probationary Process (We can't call them pledges anymore) still have to be met and he couldn't use anything that he may have had from the first time.

The best thing about it was it made him more of a leader for his new Class and really helped make them strong.

Originally Posted by MysticCat

You didn't miss anything; LadyTical did.

LadyTical, seeing as how the fraternity in question is Zeta Psi, I don't know that I'd say they were "on line." The OP was talking about a pledge process that is different from what you are used to and familiar with. The advice given him earlier in this thread and the action taken by his chapter were appropriate for the pledge process in his fraternity.

well, HOWEVER their process is done, if you are going through a process and don't want to finish then don't. PERIOD. I've never heard of anyone begging a pledge to stay, if they don't want to do the work, let them drop.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by LadyTical

well, HOWEVER their process is done, if you are going through a process and don't want to finish then don't. PERIOD. I've never heard of anyone begging a pledge to stay, if they don't want to do the work, let them drop.

Right, but obviously if they want to drop there has to be a reason, and wouldn't it behoove that chapter to get to the bottom of the reason, especially if it's more than one pledge who wanted to drop? At that point, maybe the chapter is doing something wrong. I wouldn't call it begging to ask what the problem is and then try to fix that problem. That's what BROTHERHOOD is about.

Sometimes dropping has nothing to do with whether or not they want to do the work.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by LadyTical

I've never heard of anyone begging a pledge to stay . . . .

Perhaps that's because other orgs are irrelevant to you. Maybe you should keep your opinions to yourself when your opinions are irrelevant.

Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam

Right, but obviously if they want to drop there has to be a reason, and wouldn't it behoove that chapter to get to the bottom of the reason, especially if it's more than one pledge who wanted to drop? At that point, maybe the chapter is doing something wrong. I wouldn't call it begging to ask what the problem is and then try to fix that problem. That's what BROTHERHOOD is about.

Sometimes dropping has nothing to do with whether or not they want to do the work.

I think it was their grades he said was the reason they wanted to drop but the chapter should implement study hours and a tutor to help with their work. I thought it was just that they didnt want to do anything. Members who dont want to work SHOULD drop, but if its grades and they really dont want to stop the process then they should be helped out. I think I was misunderstood when I said to let them drop, I thought it was because they didnt want to do the work. Grades come first because if their grades drop too much they wont even be in school to finish the process.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by LadyTical

I think it was their grades he said was the reason they wanted to drop but the chapter should implement study hours and a tutor to help with their work. I thought it was just that they didnt want to do anything.

RIF.

Originally Posted by zppsf1987

pledging is almost over (though our pledges don't know that) and at least two of them are dead-set on dropping out. these kids have worked hard . . . .

Originally Posted by MysticCat

RIF.

What is your point?

[agzg]

Originally Posted by LadyTical

What is your point?

I think it's that you're not reading the OP's posts before spouting off on what you think they should do. Either that, or you're ignoring what he posted.

Either way, that doesn't make for good advice.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam

I think it's that you're not reading the OP's posts before spouting off on what you think they should do. Either that, or you're ignoring what he posted.

Right. LadyTical, you said "I thought it was just that they didnt want to do anything," when in his first post, the OP said "these kids have worked hard."

Reading is fundamental.