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11-11-2008, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by PhiGam
Its the same as smoking cigarettes because you are inhaling smoke and tar into your lungs... that is bad for you. I didn't say that marijuana itself contained carcinogens, just the smoke.
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Alright, I can agree with that.
Phrozen: Just because the government says something is bad doesn't mean it is. You have to think for yourself. And if the FIRST Google response to "marijuana cancer" is an entire page of articles on how it's NOT that harmful, maybe you should believe the science.
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11-11-2008, 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Phrozen1ne
Smoking one joint, blunt, whatever your name preference is, is equivalent to smoking at least half a pack of cigarettes ( some sources say a whole pack) and alot of people don't know that marijuana has cancer causing agents in it.
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Ah yes, the Department of Justice.
That's exactly where I want to go for unbiased facts about drugs!
Heck... maybe I could also trust the F.D.A. to not allow drugs which could put holes in my heart to be prescribed.
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11-11-2008, 07:33 AM
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Part of the problem currently with studying the effects of marijuana is that nobody knows what they're really buying when they're buying it off the streets. Dealers can cut anything into it to stretch the crop. With medical marijuana, licensed growers and a known entity, it would be easier to measure the ill effects, although only people who are sick with someone else is getting it then. As my mother's doctor and many of her health care workers said, while she was dying of COPD, "lung cancer is not the worst thing that can happen from smoking". It's much tougher to do studies on effects of long term of marijuana use than cigarette use. The thing is, many people who would use medical marijuana are dying anyway and it's more of a comfort care, or need it short term during chemotherapy so that they can get through the nausea and eat.
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11-11-2008, 11:03 PM
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Really...thanks for clearing that up.
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Originally Posted by fantASTic
Alright, I can agree with that.
Phrozen: Just because the government says something is bad doesn't mean it is. You have to think for yourself. And if the FIRST Google response to "marijuana cancer" is an entire page of articles on how it's NOT that harmful, maybe you should believe the science.
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Whatever you need to smoke,.. I mean get yourself through the day.
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Originally Posted by Kevin
Ah yes, the Department of Justice.
That's exactly where I want to go for unbiased facts about drugs!
Heck... maybe I could also trust the F.D.A. to not allow drugs which could put holes in my heart to be prescribed.
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11-13-2008, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by PhiGam
Marijuana, along with anything that makes you feel good can be addictive. Its not as addictive as cocaine or hard drugs but its addictive nonetheless.
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You missed the point.
.....and I'd say it's not as addictive as cigarettes and alcohol before immediately coupling it with the hard stuff. Comparing pot to something like blow and heroin is a little silly.
The "marijuana is an addictive drug" argument is played out and pretty much retarded. It seems like every anti-marijuana publication I read starts off with that statement. Dumb.
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11-13-2008, 01:29 PM
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I honestly think it should be legal. Would put a lot of dealers out of business.
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11-13-2008, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Langox510x
I honestly think it should be legal. Would put a lot of dealers out of business.
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Yeah, the black market and everything that goes along with it would pretty much fall into self.
I think it should be like at the ABC store/liqour store. Maybe you have to be 16 or 18 or whatever to buy it, but just go, get what you want, and that way everybody wins. Well, everybody except uptight puritans who want to control what everyone else does anyway. But you can't please everybody.
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11-13-2008, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RU OX Alum
Yeah, the black market and everything that goes along with it would pretty much fall into self.
I think it should be like at the ABC store/liqour store. Maybe you have to be 16 or 18 or whatever to buy it, but just go, get what you want, and that way everybody wins. Well, everybody except uptight puritans who want to control what everyone else does anyway. But you can't please everybody.
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Can you imagine the possibilities? Haha.
Pot farmers, working for the government, produce high quality product that they can sell at a government controlled price (which, I imagine, would be a decent amount less than normal street prices/gram) with a standard tax.
Sweet Jesus that shit would fly off the shelves.
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11-13-2008, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasWSP
Can you imagine the possibilities? Haha.
Pot farmers, working for the government, produce high quality product that they can sell at a government controlled price (which, I imagine, would be a decent amount less than normal street prices/gram) with a standard tax.
Sweet Jesus that shit would fly off the shelves.
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Here and abroad. It's a virtual gold-mine. I have no idea why we aren't all over this already.
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11-13-2008, 03:48 PM
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Perhaps this is the answer to our current economic situation!
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