Upperclassman Quota (for PNMs and parents to read.)

[pinapple]

I am not sure anyone can answer this for you straight out. You are making an assumption that if you receive a bid at either Detla Gamma or Alpha Chi Omega that one of those chapters will let you affiliate at UT Austin. And that is a huge assumption. You may want to email the presidents of each chapter and ask them what their policy on affiliation is before you make this decision.

[pinkchai]

Thank you for the info, it really helps
Does anyone know of a CAP student and what they decided to do for rushing?

[KSUViolet06]

Another point about UQ.

Should you decide to drop out of your freshman year recruitment because you aren't happy with your invites or whatever, don't think "Oh well I can just rush next year. My school has upperclassman quota."

It does not = guaranteed bids for people who rush a 2nd time.

[nicole38]

I am an incoming sophomore at FSU, how do I know if their upperclassman quota includes both sophomores and juniors or if they are separate? Would anyone happen to know the answer to this one?

[AZTheta]

^^^did you ask the Greek Life office at FSU?

[soflogirl]

It says on their website that FSU's upperclassmen quota is for both sophomores & juniors I'm rushing as a sophomore too!

[Soomie]

I can definitely attest to this. I got cut yesterday from all but two sororities, and they were the two I didn't like. But I went back and gave them a try and they were actually better today. Sometimes it's a matter of getting the right person. No matter what, you should keep an open mind. I don't know why the other ones cut me. It could have been my GPA, how I looked, my interests, or they could have just not needed Juniors or wanted to take on the risk of a junior. It really just depends. At the end of the day, it's nothing personal. Often times you end up on the bottom of the list, and you just receive the big cut along with a lot of other girls who were above and below you. What matters are the ones who invited you back. They obviously saw something of interest in you. They know best what fits their sorority and if they can see you as a sister, maybe you should give them a chance and see them as sisters

[southernroots]

Why are UC quotas created if sororities do not even have to use them?

[SoCalGirl]

Technically they don't have to take quota either. They could elect to submit a bid list that is shorter.

[TexasBelle819]

Does anyone happen to know if the University of North Texas greek system has an 'upperclassmen quota'?
Recently decided on transferring and don't know much about their greek system just yet!

[carnation]

TTT!

[BlueBayou]

I keep hearing people say it is "easier to get in as a sophomore than a freshman when the school has an upperclass quota." That does not make sense to me.

I would think that at best an upperclass quote allows sophomores to have roughly the same chance as a regular freshman. All the upperclass quota does is create spaces for upperclassmen - when some sororities traditionally took few or no new members that were not freshmen. But the number of spaces is based on the number of upperclassmen participating, right?

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I’ve never heard that- from what I see on here it usually seems like an arbitrary number (like 5 or 10) or a percentage of quota.

It's based on the number of upperclassman just like the regular quota. It's just that there are so fewer upperclassmen going thru as a rule. At least that's my experience in the SEC - but you aren't really familiar with that...

[33girl]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

So, I had previously assumed that UC quota was determined like regular quota: number of UC PNM's signing bid cards/number of chapters. I found out this year that is far from true. So, not only does a chapter not have to use its UC quota, but even if every chapter does, there are very often fewer spots than UC PNM's.

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

As far as I know, upperclassman quota is mentioned nowhere in the MOI. Therefore, campuses are free to set it as they wish.

Originally Posted by OneHeartOneWay

This is my understanding as well (although I am certainly open to being proven wrong, as I've never actually looked for it myself!). I do know of at least one school that arbitrarily (for lack of a better word) selects upperclassmen quota- it has no bearing on the number of UC PNMs, as it is voted on with the recruitment rules the semester prior to FR.

Originally Posted by Titchou

This is the only reference to upperclass quota I find in the current edition of the MOI in the section on Membership:

"If a campus utilizes an upperclass quota during formal recruitment, they may pledge up to quota with candidates from this classification only."

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[Jen]

From the 2019 MOI:

"Some campuses find the use of an upperclass quota valuable in situations when there is a significant number of upperclassmen who are interested in recruitment, and/or the campus historically matches a low percentage of upperclass potential new members in the recruitment process. The determination to implement an upperclass quota must be made by the College Panhellenic, before recruitment begins and in consultation with the RFM specialist and the NPC area advisor.

Upperclass quota is not the answer for every campus but rather in circumstances that will help place upperclass women who have traditionally not been placed.

Once a Panhellenic votes to establish an upperclass quota, individual chapters may not opt out of accepting those women without consulting their inter/national organization, the fraternity/sorority advisor and the RFM specialist before recruitment begins."

So a group may opt out if they've consulted the appropriate people, so it's possible that not every group on a campus with upperclass quota will participate in using it.