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Old 07-19-2007, 08:43 AM
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Don't leave us hanging now! Update!
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Old 07-19-2007, 08:57 AM
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Look on the bright side, at least you got a bid. I'm sure there were at least one or two women that were not offered a bid anywhere.

UPDATE! UPDATE!

I MUST KNOW NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 07-19-2007, 09:24 AM
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Ok, my boss isn't here today and I can slack off for a bit.....

PLEASE POST!!!

And for anyone else out there who wants to post their retro thread -- go for it - i will be your captive audience today.
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Old 07-19-2007, 09:31 AM
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Ok, my boss isn't here today and I can slack off for a bit.....
hahaha.

My boss is never here.......anyday!

I sit back and watch old House episodes on the Mac.

But, then of course, I am only a student worker, still being a student and all so I don't really have much to do anyway.
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:11 PM
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I love the way that some folks have turned retro-recruitments into a competitive sport for the readers. I'm interested in some sort of GC wagering for the next one.

Something like winner get to pick signatures that the losers have to use for a week.

I also want to note that this thread is a great, authentic example of rush induced insanity. I've tried to explain the condition to people: no matter how level headed you are usually or may be are at the start, you throw reason to the wind because you start assuming that a certain outcome based on the early rounds is the only possible way you can be happy.

It's a sad condition but so common and contagious.
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:11 PM
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bid day continued

Ok next update. It would have been sooner but some scum of life broke into my car last night so I've been talking to the police all morning

So I had just opened my bid card and I was standing there crying. My Rho Chi asked if I was ok and I completely ignored her and turned and walked out of the room. Even though I had a very strong feeling that this would be the outcome, actually seeing it in writing was like a huge punch in the gut. I stood in the hall frozen. Everyone else was jumping and hugging and squealing and I just felt like an outsider. I thought about just going back to my room but I really didn’t want to be rude to the girls at Giverny because they didn’t deserve that. My other Rho Chi came out in the hall to see where I had gone and I asked her if it was possible that there was a mistake and that I should be in Marseille. She gave me a pitying look and said no but that I should be happy because I got a bid from a great house. I think she knew immediately that just saying that wouldn’t be enough to convince me as I was still sobbing uncontrollably. She told me that even though they weren’t my first choice she knew that I’d grow to love them. She also said something that I later found to be very true, which was how it was hard to know a house after just one week of rush parties and that the house’s true colors would come out after bid day. I asked her why I had been cut by Marseille and especially Bordeaux. She said there could be tons of reasons, in the case of Marseille it might have just been a numbers issue but with Bordeaux for whatever reason they didn’t think I’d be happy in their house. I still remember those exact words because I wanted to scream “I’M THE ONE WHO GETS TO DECIDE WHAT HOUSE I’LL BE HAPPY IN, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!!” I just couldn’t get over how unfair it all was.

But then I realized there were a lot of people staring at me standing there crying and I definitely didn’t want them to take pity on me. Maybe if I at least pretended like this is what I wanted people wouldn’t think I was a loser. I put on the most stoic look as I could, told my Rho Chi I would go to bid day, and ran to join my new sisters.

Caroline came running out to meet me and gave me a huge hug and almost knocked me over. She said “I heard that you were preffing Marseille and I was so scared you would choose them over us! I’m so excited you’re here!” I felt pretty guilty for lying but I said “yeah, I really liked Giverny. I’m really happy.”

I was showered with gifts and hugs all day but never got over my crappy feeling. When I went back to my room none of my quad mates were there and I figured they were all out celebrating with their new sisters. I cried myself to sleep that night.

Over the next week we had several parties with the fraternities, sisterhood events, and new member meetings. I thought they were fun and liked the girls in my pledge class but still desperately wished I could be a Bordeaux or Marseille. In hindsight those first few days I don't even think I gave the girls a fair chance because all I could think about was what the girls in Bordeaux and Marseille were doing. Every time I’d see someone from my hall with their bid day tshirts or bags from any of the other groups I couldn’t help but ask myself what they had that I didn’t that made the houses like them. I wondered what I had done wrong, and the fact that I didn’t even know what went wrong made me even more self-conscious than I had been before rush started.

I knew I could never get over losing out on Bordeaux or Marseille so I made the decision to drop out and rush again the next year.


I'll finish up the story this afternoon or tonight depending on when I have time to get my thoughts together enough to wrap it up!
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:18 PM
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Ah, man, I feel bad for Giverny. I wanted you to love them back.
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:20 PM
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oh yes! this thread is getting awesomer by the post.

(i take it because your school has a really relaxed greek life that it was cool for you to depledge and re-rush? i can't seeing that being cool in anyone's book at other schools, even outside of my NPHC scope).
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:32 PM
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It was reasonably common for girls to drop out in the first few weeks and rush again the next year. All the houses had formal pledging the first week after bid day but then didn't initiate until October or November. Quota was usually in the 30s and I'd say there were usually about 5 girls per house that dropped out before initiation. Then maybe half of those would actually rush again. At my campus it seemed like sophomores actually had an advantage because they generally knew a lot of girls in the houses and had a better idea of what to expect.
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:34 PM
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Sorry about your car. A friend of mine was on vacation and had her car completely stoled two days ago. I know it must suck!!

I was also not expecting that twist. I figured you were going to say that you gave them a chance and you loved it there. I can't wait to hear the rest.
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:46 PM
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oh, where are my manners? i'm really sorry about your break-in... that really does blow. my house was robbed a few years ago. its a total kick in the stomach.

but when you get it all together on the homefront, dont be afraid nor fight the urge to update, ok?
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:59 PM
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Y0u have sympathy about the car thing too.
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Old 07-19-2007, 04:45 PM
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finale!

Fortunately (I guess) all that was taken out of my car was my iPod. The guy will have a fun time selling it though considering it has my name etched on the back, and it will look a tad obvious that it's stolen if he has to scratch it out. Dumbass.

Ok I'm going to try to wrap up my story now!

I made the decision to drop out of Giverny and rush again the next year but for one reason or another I kept putting it off. None of the houses did COB and I wanted to be in a sorority so badly that I couldn’t imagine waiting an entire year to have the chance. And what if Bordeaux cut me next year? So I decided to give Giverny a few more weeks.

At first I just felt bad and couldn't bring myself to do it. Then I started getting really close to Caroline and we started talking about big sis/little sis stuff and I thought it would be great if she was my big sis. After a few weeks I got in the groove of going to classes, I joined the equestrian team, I got a boyfriend, and I got to know more girls in my pledge class and loved always having someone to hang out with.

I had once been so sure I wanted to drop out but now I was really starting to like Giverny. Also, one of my quad mates had pledged Marseille but had already dropped out because something happened that made her not want to be in the house. I remembered what my Rho Chi had said about the house's true colors coming out and I wondered if I would be stupid to leave Giverny when there was no doubt that these were really nice girls.

I was still unsure after about a month but we were having our new member retreat and I thought it would be a good chance to decide for sure what I wanted to do. It was during the retreat that I finally realized how much I loved the Givernys. Deep down I knew all along that this was the best fit for me but I had wanted to be the popular party girl so badly and was so worried about what everyone else would think of me that I had ignored my gut instinct completely. After talking to the rest of the girls in my pledge class I realized that I wasn’t the only one who had concerns over the reputation of being the anti-social house. We didn’t have a problem being seen as the smart girls but we did have a problem that everyone seemed to think we did nothing but study. That night we vowed that by our senior year we would have the reputation of being the smart, classy, AND fun girls.

Giverny was not a struggling house when I joined but I do think they were a little apathetic when it came to recruitment and it definitely showed. The whole time during rush I just thought they seemed bored and uncomfortable which was a huge contrast to the loud and bubbly girls in the other houses. Fortunately my school changed the silence rules so it wasn't such a feeding frenzy the first week before rush started but in my experience just the fact that only 2 girls from Giverny had called me, when probably 50 from Marseille and Bordeaux had called me, was a big turnoff. I'm sure there were PNMs who would have been the complete opposite of me and would have hated being bombarded by sorority girls, but at least at my school those girls would have been the minority. Once everyone realized that we just needed to be more aggressive and "cutesy" during rush there was a major turn around in morale and the girls that we got on bid day. My sophomore year our bid day was probably one of my best memories because all the new members were so excited to be there and it was just a huge contrast to the year before. My pledge class always joked about our disasterous bid day (it wasn't that bid day itself was awful but I was not the only one who was upset to be there that day!) so during our senior year the new freshman class threw us a "re-bid day" complete with bid cards, gifts, and a bid day party.

They also had a tendency to only hang out with a particular fraternity, so all of the other guys said they were anti-social because they’d never see them at their house. There was one fraternity in particular that was spreading the worst rumors about us my freshman year but just by hanging out at their house and supporting their philanthropy events their opinion on us completely changed and now they’re one of our biggest supporters. Initially a lot of girls were against being nice to them since they weren't nice to us but I can't tell you how much their support has helped us.

At our new member retreat we had to write letters to our future selves then at our senior party 4 years later we got them back. Here are some excerpts from mine:

“Right now I’m at the new member retreat. I’m having a really good time which is surprising because I didn’t think I would. I was worried that I made the wrong decision but I am having so much fun tonight that I’m not worried anymore. I’m so happy that these girls are my new sisters because they’re so cool!” It goes on like that for a while and ends with some rambling about how much I missed my dog

And if you haven’t figured it out by now, Giverny is Alpha Omicron Pi!

This was also in 2002 and even though that's not that long ago the stereotypes for all the chapters have completely changed. So if any future PNMs are reading this and trying to understand my campus you'll be 5 years behind!


So how did it end up for everyone else you ask?
Caroline was my big sis and we became really close. She was basically my mentor and I learned so much from her and just gained a lot of confidence by being around her. She was incredibly smart, gorgeous, had great fashion and makeup sense, could talk to anyone and was always the life of the party, but was also phi beta kappa and just a truly interesting person. She was chapter president her senior year. She’s now working with a top law firm in Manhattan and is engaged to her cute fraternity boyfriend (the same one from philanthropy party )

My roommate initiated in Lyon. She liked the girls but never really got involved and ended up de-activating her junior year.

One of my quad mates pledged Bordeaux and loved it. The other got a bid to Marseille but ended up dropping out a few days later. She rushed again the next year and pledged Bordeaux. I ended up getting to know a lot of Bordeauxs through them and really liked most of them but never regretted my decision to stick with AOII.

Do you want me to reveal the chapters? If I do it will completely give away the school and I also don't want to hurt anyone feelings since I tried to be as honest as possible about them and I could understand someone taking offense.

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Old 07-19-2007, 04:59 PM
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but when you get it all together on the homefront, dont be afraid nor fight the urge to update, ok?
I seriously think that you and I are on the same brain waves.

I'm really sorry about your car!!!!! I have lunch with one of my SAI sisters everyday and her house got broken into last night for the second time in the year she's been there. Her lease is up in two weeks.

YaY FOR ALPHA OMICRON PI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm really glad you gave the "geeky" chapter a chance.
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Old 07-19-2007, 05:07 PM
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Great story!

I'm curious to know what the other chapters are
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