Organizations founded AFTER 1930, Why did you pledge?

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I think she meant that "combatting against" is redundant. "Combatting" means "fighting against" or "opposing."

But I see your point.

Missed me this time. It was the idea that one would join an organization to try to change it that was odd (not a strong enough word) to me.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by AOEforme

I suppose the other organizations make a difference: It did for me. Maybe if it had been a different chapter of XYZ that had offered me a bid, I would have found I fit in more and accepted it.... and then I'd be in a totally different position.

uh oh....

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

Missed me this time. It was the idea that one would join an organization to try to change it that was odd (not a strong enough word) to me.

Moreso influence it than change it. I guess she felt she'd get lost in the shuffle, which was an assumption on her part of course.

On a silly change note:
I actually knew a couple of NPHC frat and sorority members years ago who played with the idea of joining an NPHC org that was NOT in their heart. They wanted to join because they felt they could help the orgs blossom and succeed at the local level. Essentially, they wanted to turn the orgs into the org that is in their heart. LOL. Needless to say, this idea died down quickly and they diligently pursued and got accepted into the org that's in their heart--and no one held the brief lapse in judgment against them. Smart move on their part. The org you pursue because it's small and potentally changeable won't become the org that's in your HEART. EVER.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

Missed me this time. It was the idea that one would join an organization to try to change it that was odd (not a strong enough word) to me.

Oh well. I tried.

[AOEforme]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

The org you pursue because it's small and potentally changeable won't become the org that's in your HEART. EVER.

Agreed, 100%. I loved my chapter to begin with. I also love the idea of how I really make a difference in it.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by AOEforme

Agreed, 100%. I loved my chapter to begin with. I also love the idea of how I really make a difference in it.

Your GLO is a national one, right? You confused me when you gave the hypothetical of getting a bid from a different chapter of XYZ.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

The org you pursue because it's small and potentally changeable won't become the org that's in your HEART. EVER.

I made a mistake along these lines before joining my sorority. And, you're absolutely right.

[ferrus_manus]

I was interested in GBX for a few reasons.

A) It is the First Black Service Fraternity

B) The organization caters to students from 4yr, 2yr and tech, related, institutions of higher learning.

C) I have the opportunity of making history by aiding not just in the internal structure of the organization but also it's growth on a national scope.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by ferrus_manus

A) It is the First Black Service Fraternity.

Even though you were founded in 2002? Wow. I didn't know that.

[ferrus_manus]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Even though you were founded in 2002? Wow. I didn't know that.

I was pretty surprised myself. But, though, other older Black Greek Lettered Fraternities do service projects they are Social. Hence, where we come in.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by ferrus_manus

I was pretty surprised myself. But, though, other older Black Greek Lettered Fraternities do service projects they are Social. Hence, where we come in.

So you mean you don't have Title IX exemption?

[ferrus_manus]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

So you mean you don't have Title IX exemption?

Well we have a constitutionally bound sister group for females interested in joining a service oriented society.

And of course there is always GSS or APO.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by ferrus_manus

Well we have a constitutionally bound sister group for females interested in joining a service oriented society.

And of course there is always GSS or APO.

I think her point was that under federal law, no collegiate organization can restrict membership to males (or females) unless it is classified as a "social" fraternity (or sorority). A constitutionally bound but still seperate organization might not satisfy this federal requirement. (See the example of Kappa Kappa Psi and Tau Beta Sigma, for instance.)

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I think her point was that under federal law, no collegiate organization can restrict membership to males (or females) unless it is classified as a "social" fraternity (or sorority). A constitutionally bound but still seperate organization might not satisfy this federal requirement. (See the example of Kappa Kappa Psi and Tau Beta Sigma, for instance.)

Exactly. All NPHC organizations are service fraternities and sororities. They are "social" only in the sense that they are Title IX exempt and can restrict membership based on legal gender.

[ferrus_manus]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I think her point was that under federal law, no collegiate organization can restrict membership to males (or females) unless it is classified as a "social" fraternity (or sorority). A constitutionally bound but still seperate organization might not satisfy this federal requirement. (See the example of Kappa Kappa Psi and Tau Beta Sigma, for instance.)

Funny......I don't recall saying that we restrict anyone from joining.