SAE gone form UNT! - Page 3

texas*princess · #31 10-22-2003, 10:08 PM

So much to reply to! hehehe

Yes I agree that the UNT sororities definitely uphold the true Panhellenic spirit! We are always there for each other to support one another and I am so proud and happy to be part of it

The house that ADPi currently resides in is leased from Kappa Alpha since they are no longer on our campus. I believe ADPi moved into the house in Spring 2002? We are all very excited at the opportunity to build with the other sororities so the new complex can strengthen our Panhellenic ties even more. I'm not sure what is going to happen to this house after we move into the Sorority Row.... there has been talks that another fraternity might move in, but all that is still up in the air.

And once again I can agree with txsurfinwaves that the Delta Sigs on this campus are true gentlemen

Txsurfinwaves · #32 10-22-2003, 10:17 PM

I can honestly say that i havent gotten the chance to know any SigEps on the campus..

We did HC with Sigma Nu, i coached the Sigma Chi's for Mr. Pi Phi, love the lambda chis( met them on bid day), i worked with a kappa sig this summer, im going to formal with a delta sig, and i loved the SAEs. Phi Kappa Sigma..i have one in my philosophy class, and he seems nice. All the fraternities here on campus seem like great guys, with such a strong bond, and one that they would do anything for each other.

I think, though, that the competition is very high here. The fraternities are constantly fighting and have these HUGE rivalaries...but ive really only seen Delta Sig's and Sigma Nus...since we did HC with Sigma Nu and they thought Delta Sig had messed with their rock.

To unite the sororites and the fraternities....i think we have a good base so far...we just need to build on it. I think that Troy is really trying to get the greek system to unite together as a whole, and I think it is slowly but surely coming together.

texas*princess, help a panhellenic sister out! Im watching the bachelor, and its distracting me!

texas*princess · #33 10-22-2003, 10:27 PM

hehehe.. we just finished watching The Bachelor

As far as all greek unity, I agree that we have a working base so far, but it's true that the fraternities do have rivalries going on. I think generally we have great groups here on campus, they just need to learn to support one another and forget silly differences.

JLyons · #34 10-22-2003, 10:31 PM

Do y'all have exchanges between Fraternities and Sororities at your campus? At LSU, Thursday night is the typical exchange night. Fraternities and Sorority pair up & get together from 8 - 11 pm, either at the Fraternity house or at a local establishment. There usually is a theme. You don't bring dates (you are each others date). This is a great way for sororities and fraternities to get to know each other and form unity within the Greek community. In the early 90's, block parties were also held. At these, several sororities and several fraternities had one group exchange. Haven't heard of this happening in recent years, though.

AGDee · #35 10-22-2003, 11:06 PM

I can't say that I know the campus at all, but perhaps this incident could be the incident that leads the Greeks to unite. It sounds like a Greek system in crisis and someone needs to take the lead to say "Hey, let's start meeting and figure out what we can do to be stronger as a whole". At my alma mater, they have a President's Club in addition to IFC and Panhellenic Council where they would discuss general issues that were affecting the Greek system on campus. Remind everybody that "No matter the letter, we're all Greek together" and if you don't unite, the chapters may continue to fall.

Dee

JLyons · #36 10-22-2003, 11:22 PM

Something else that LSU does to help unite the Greek Community is monthly advisors meetings. The Chapter Advisors, Faculty Advisors, and House Corporation Officers meet once a month (taking place at the greek houses on campus) to discuss issues that going on in the greek community. This has helped the chapters know what is going on with each other and to provide assistance to each other.

Also, several years ago, (after the highly publicized drinking death of one of its Greek members) the university implemented a Greek Assessment that each GLO has to participate in. Each GLO is "graded" on various areas such as Scholastics, Community Service, New Membership, Continuing Member Education, Health & Wellness, Hazing Prevention, Leadership Training, Transition-to-Post-Graduate-Life, Substance Free Events, and Multi-cultural Activities. If an organization doesn't do well, they go through a probationary period where they can improve on the areas in which they are weak. If they do well, they are recognized as such. Since the assessment process began, there has been a change in the overall Greek Community image. Granted the change, so far, is slight; however, I think that the Greek System at LSU will be better for it. It really makes the members of each chapter look at themselves, see what needs to be changed and take the necessary steps to improve.

AGDee · #37 10-22-2003, 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by JLyons
Something else that LSU does to help unite the Greek Community is monthly advisors meetings. The Chapter Advisors, Faculty Advisors, and House Corporation Officers meet once a month (taking place at the greek houses on campus) to discuss issues that going on in the greek community. This has helped the chapters know what is going on with each other and to provide assistance to each other.

Also, several years ago, (after the highly publicized drinking death of one of its Greek members) the university implemented a Greek Assessment that each GLO has to participate in. Each GLO is "graded" on various areas such as Scholastics, Community Service, New Membership, Continuing Member Education, Health & Wellness, Hazing Prevention, Leadership Training, Transition-to-Post-Graduate-Life, Substance Free Events, and Multi-cultural Activities. If an organization doesn't do well, they go through a probationary period where they can improve on the areas in which they are weak. If they do well, they are recognized as such. Since the assessment process began, there has been a change in the overall Greek Community image. Granted the change, so far, is slight; however, I think that the Greek System at LSU will be better for it. It really makes the members of each chapter look at themselves, see what needs to be changed and take the necessary steps to improve.

I get uncomfortable with the University doing the "grading" of GLOs because I feel that is up to our Inter/National organizations to do.

I do like the idea of the advisor meetings though!

Dee

JLyons · #38 10-22-2003, 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by AGDee
I get uncomfortable with the University doing the "grading" of GLOs because I feel that is up to our Inter/National organizations to do.

I do like the idea of the advisor meetings though!

Dee

When the assessment process began, we were all very uncomfortable. However, it turned out not to be so bad. The assessment team is comprised of about 5 people from the university, both greek and non-greek. They are there to help the chapters improve.

Txsurfinwaves · #39 10-23-2003, 12:25 AM

its not that we dont have unity...we do!! at least the sororities do. My best friend is a Zeta, and i have tons of friends in Kappa and Chi-Omega. I live with an Alpha Phi at the moment.

The frats are just really competitive.....and its not just one fraternity, its all of them. All the sororities have their certain fraternities they like....but we get along with all of them. I cant really say that the fraternities should follow after us, because we are way different. I think guys are just competitive by nature, and while it can be friendly competition at times,but it also gets really out of hand at other times.

MereMere21 · #40 10-23-2003, 09:50 AM

The Phi Kapps were nice guys, and I agree with whomever said the Delta Sigs were gentlemen. I'm going to go out on a limb and say I wasn't impressed with the Sig Eps the few times we mixed with them. My opinion though. The Sigma Nu's were always fun.....like I said before, SAE's didn't really do stuff with us.

Hey this is off topic, but texas*princess and txsurfinwaves - what do the UNT sororities think about the TWU sororities? I always got the feeling that y'all didn't like us too much

texas*princess · #41 10-23-2003, 10:10 AM

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Originally posted by MereMere21
The Phi Kapps were nice guys, and I agree with whomever said the Delta Sigs were gentlemen. I'm going to go out on a limb and say I wasn't impressed with the Sig Eps the few times we mixed with them. My opinion though. The Sigma Nu's were always fun.....like I said before, SAE's didn't really do stuff with us.

Hey this is off topic, but texas*princess and txsurfinwaves - what do the UNT sororities think about the TWU sororities? I always got the feeling that y'all didn't like us too much

That's really neat, because I never knew TWU sororities mixed with UNT fraternities

I don't think there is any annimosity towards TWU sororities? I've never heard of any anyway. I personally think it's kind of neat to have more sororities of the panhellenic family close by

I've met a few TWU students and they sort of snubbed me after they learned I was greek... Is TWU like that about their own greeks?

MereMere21 · #42 10-23-2003, 12:09 PM

TWU is about as anti-greek as you can get. Actually, they are anti NPC greek as the NPHC sororities seem to have more luck than we do with public relations.

Thats funny that you didn't know we mixed with y'all's fraternities. I mean, I'm not sure who Tri Sig did things with, but I do know that AOPi mainly did things with the Sig Eps and then the AGDs just kind of did events with everyone

There was/is alot of animosity between AOPi and AGD - I'm not sure when it started.

I always got the feeling from the UNT girls that I met who were greek that they thought we didn't belong or something. I'm not going to name their GLO, but I'll say it was Pi Phi or ADPi

I know when I was there we were trying to come up with a way to get UNT sororities and our girls together for a party, but I forget why it didn't come about? I wish it had!

Mikej11 · #43 10-23-2003, 12:46 PM

SigEp and AOPi have always had good relations and have many things together in the past. I also have seen that idea that the TWU Sororities were treated as an outcast group. When I joined SigEp in the Fall of 99, we always partied with AOPi, we had a mixer with them, we did homecoming with them one year, and many of my brothers started good relationships with these women. We have had mixer or two with AGD in the past, but recently we have tried to focus more on our own Sororities on campus. We have two mixers schedule for this semester with XOmega and APhi. I also know that once we get our new house it will be easier for the SigEps to be more visible on campus.

Txsurfinwaves · #44 10-23-2003, 01:57 PM

i knew that TWU sororites and UNT fraternitites mixed- just because my delta sig guy was telling me that they went out with AOPi last night and have a mixer with as he put it, some sorority with Delta in it....(figures. boys dont pay attention) and we were talking about how cool it was that they were mixing with the TWU sororities. Ive never gotten the chance to meet any TWU greeks, im always so busy with school or Pi Phi...I wish we would do a mixer with a TWU sorority- that would be cool.

Mike- I agree with the fact that once ya'll get a house, Sig Ep will be more visible on campus.

i never knew there was animosity either.....but i can see how it might happen, given that the campus's are so close...

DeltaSig · #45 10-26-2003, 01:36 AM

As a former Delta Sig at UNT I would have to say I'm a litte shocked at what happend. SAE had just started to become a really great bunch of guys when I left and had just got their house, it was small but many good memories. Sad to hear about another "GREEK INCIDENT", I thought the KA thing would be the last of it. The school is very anti-greek especially the paper and admin. The Greek councils are very strong on campus and that is why they continue to thrive so much.