GreekChat.com Forums
Celebrating 25 Years of GreekChat!

Go Back   GreekChat.com Forums > Greek Life
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Greek Life This forum is for various discussion topics regarding greek life. If you are posting a non-greek related message, please do so in one of the General Chat Topic forums.

» GC Stats
Members: 326,151
Threads: 115,590
Posts: 2,200,407
Welcome to our newest member, 420Greek
» Online Users: 990
0 members and 990 guests
No Members online
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old 06-25-2007, 07:44 PM
AlexMack AlexMack is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: 33girl's campaign manager
Posts: 2,881
Knew you would!
__________________
I'll take trainwreck for 100 Alex.

And Jesus speaketh, "do unto others as they did unto you because the bitches deserve it".

Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 06-25-2007, 07:49 PM
UGAalum94 UGAalum94 is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Atlanta area
Posts: 5,372
Quote:
Originally Posted by porkfriedrice View Post
While we're at it...America is not founded upon judeo-christian principles. It's founded upon the principles of freedom of religion and separation of church and state. OMG it pisses me off when people play that card. Or the fact that In God We Trust wasn't added to money or the pledge of allegiance until the 50s I believe.
I'm not even American and I know this!
Well, it also depends on what you mean by "America" and "founded."

The formation of the United States as a separate and independent political entity or the actual settlement and survival of the early colonies?

The influence of the Puritans in New England really was pretty darn important for a long time in US history, and Georgia's colonial success depended a lot on the Methodists.

And to be honest, even the Deism of the Revolutionary documents probably wouldn't have been possible without the contributions of the Judeo-Christian Western tradition. It's not like the Enlightenment happened in a cultural vacuum or under Confucianism or Islam.
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 06-26-2007, 05:52 PM
Corsulian Corsulian is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Fairfax, Va
Posts: 287
Send a message via AIM to Corsulian
Quote:
Originally Posted by MysticCat View Post
Undoubtedly, Puritanism influenced the founding of the American Republic, but America is not "Puritan-founded."
I misspoke when I suggested that actual Puritans founded the whole of America. America was founded by many distinct groups, sects, organizations, corporations, and more. We're a great big ridiculous melting pot.

Nevertheless, I do not believe so many brothels were appearing that every township/county (and generally only those containing or that would one day contain a college or university) felt that anti-brothel laws were necessary but that instead of saying 'no brothels' they referred to it vaguely in terms of number of women in a household.

Given that this is a "stickied" thread regarding the brothel law, try and focus on that rather than the philosophical reasoning behind the founding of the country which is extremely loosely tied to local zoning laws. The only thing relevant about the influence of religion or whether many aspects of our society are too conservative is that these are probably the reasons (or perceptions) that lead to people believing in a stupid reason for the lack of Greek Housing.
__________________
PHI SIGMA KAPPA
Xi Septaton Chapter Alumnus * George Mason University
Regional Coordinator - Region X (Va, Md, DC, & De)
GMU Greek Life Wiki * Unofficial Region X Portal
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 06-26-2007, 07:13 PM
MysticCat MysticCat is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: A dark and very expensive forest
Posts: 12,731
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corsulian View Post
Given that this is a "stickied" thread regarding the brothel law, try and focus on that rather than the philosophical reasoning behind the founding of the country which is extremely loosely tied to local zoning laws. The only thing relevant about the influence of religion or whether many aspects of our society are too conservative is that these are probably the reasons (or perceptions) that lead to people believing in a stupid reason for the lack of Greek Housing.
Hey, you're the one who brought the Puritan influence up.

But you're right in that in the 1800s, unless one was going to school in New York City, Philadelphia, Chicago, Washington or New Orleans, keeping brothels from being established near campuses probably wasn't high on any municipality's list of things to worry about. (And I'm doubting that they worried in New Orleans.)
__________________
AMONG MEN HARMONY
1898
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 06-28-2007, 03:49 PM
Tom Earp Tom Earp is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Kansas City, Kansas USA
Posts: 23,584
Why isn't this dead yet like the law?
__________________
LCA


LX Z # 1
Alumni
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 07-04-2007, 09:17 AM
puddintane puddintane is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 21
I came across this thread and found it interesting. Apparently this myth has been circulating for so long even LAWMAKERS don't even question it.

Here is an article from Wikipedia.com...where even the Tennessee Legislature had to address this very issue, on a law that evidently never existed to start with:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_...ate_University
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 07-10-2007, 07:28 AM
BlueBeast1914 BlueBeast1914 is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 3
Is it really a Myth

I know for a fact that in Detroit Mi, the law stands. There are no Sorority houses but there are several Frat houses. It is a law that is actually on the books here.

Last edited by BlueBeast1914; 07-10-2007 at 07:30 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 07-10-2007, 07:44 AM
MysticCat MysticCat is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: A dark and very expensive forest
Posts: 12,731
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueBeast1914 View Post
I know for a fact that in Detroit Mi, the law stands. It is a law that is actually on the books here.
Can you actually cite to the ordinance? 'Cause otherwise, I'm not buying that it's "actually on the books."
__________________
AMONG MEN HARMONY
1898
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 07-10-2007, 08:09 AM
AlphaFrog AlphaFrog is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: The Ozdust Ballroom
Posts: 14,819
Quote:
Originally Posted by MysticCat View Post
Can you actually cite to the ordinance? 'Cause otherwise, I'm not buying that it's "actually on the books."
I'm sure his brother's girlfriend's aunt's third cousin's husband's dog told him. So of course it's true. Disregard the rest of the thread and everyone else who ACTUALLY knows what they're talking about. The Brothel Law is absolutely true.

BTW, MC - love the new sig.
__________________
Facile remedium est ubertati; sterilia nullo labore vincuntur.
I think pearls are lovely, especially when you need something to clutch. ~ AzTheta
The Real World Can't Hear You ~ GC Troll
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 07-10-2007, 06:45 PM
BlueBeast1914 BlueBeast1914 is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by MysticCat View Post
Can you actually cite to the ordinance? 'Cause otherwise, I'm not buying that it's "actually on the books."

I really don't care what you buy or don't. I know for certain that at the several universities in this city, none of them have houses that are inhabited.

I can assure you that the law exist
__________________
Our Cause Speeds On its way
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 07-10-2007, 06:49 PM
Unregistered-
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueBeast1914 View Post

I can assure you that the law exist
Too bad no one believes you. Your assurances don't mean squat.

Again, cite your source. Oh that's right, you can't.
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 07-10-2007, 07:11 PM
MysticCat MysticCat is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: A dark and very expensive forest
Posts: 12,731
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueBeast1914 View Post
I really don't care what you buy or don't. I know for certain that at the several universities in this city, none of them have houses that are inhabited.
Oh, my bad. I didn't stop to think that if no sororities in Detroit have houses, the reason can only be a brothel law. I have certainly been put in my place.

Quote:
I can assure you that the law exist
Then it ought to be a simple matter for you to cite and/or quote the ordinance. But like OTW, I'm betting you can't.
__________________
AMONG MEN HARMONY
1898
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 07-10-2007, 07:33 PM
AngieWashU AngieWashU is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Colorado
Posts: 166
My alma mater (Washington University in St. Louis) regularly fed this myth to incoming freshmen, but a Theta who graduated the year before I did debunked this myth to the Panhellenic community and revealed the real reason: an alumna had donated money to the university with the stipulation that while it was being used to build/maintain the building named in her memory, sororities could only have suites in her building and no residential houses. At that time the sororities discussed building houses but found there wasn't enough interest in our chapters to pursue it.
__________________
It's the link that keeps us strong, and reminds we belong, to the Delta Gamma bonds of sisterhood.
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 07-11-2007, 12:17 AM
Drolefille Drolefille is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 13,578
Quote:
Originally Posted by AngieWashU View Post
My alma mater (Washington University in St. Louis) regularly fed this myth to incoming freshmen, but a Theta who graduated the year before I did debunked this myth to the Panhellenic community and revealed the real reason: an alumna had donated money to the university with the stipulation that while it was being used to build/maintain the building named in her memory, sororities could only have suites in her building and no residential houses. At that time the sororities discussed building houses but found there wasn't enough interest in our chapters to pursue it.
That's very interesting. SLU and UMSL believed the myth too, although I think UMSL helped debunk it by the creation of their new sorority houses in the past few years (although even they're not in the "city" so I'm sure it lives on).
__________________
From the SigmaTo the K!
Polyamorous, Pansexual and Proud of it!
It Gets Better
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 07-20-2007, 12:06 AM
tanzera tanzera is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: University of Nevada, Reno
Posts: 20
Send a message via Yahoo to tanzera
tHE bROTHEL LAW

I just wanted to comment on this because I go to University of Nevada and our wack counterpart UNLV does still adhere to the brothel law. It is not a myth or a rumor. No sororities or frats have official houses because there is still a brothel law in nevada and UNLV and UNR are not in cities that allow brothels.
__________________
A Lady Xi- Always the leader, never the follower
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:31 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.