University of Mississippi - Ole Miss 2014 Panhellenic Sorority Recruitment

[swarmina]

Maybe a dumb question but does Silence include a PNM talking to a relative who is a member of one of the organizations with houses on campus? Like a daughter talking to a member mom kind of thing? This isn't for Ole Miss specifically, but about rushing at any school...Is talk with a parent or sister to a legacy daughter OK or no? Thanks!

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by swarmina

Maybe a dumb question but does Silence include a PNM talking to a relative who is a member of one of the organizations with houses on campus? Like a daughter talking to a member mom kind of thing? This isn't for Ole Miss specifically, but about rushing at any school...Is talk with a parent or sister to a legacy daughter OK or no? Thanks!

I know this is a long thread but this topic is covered in giant letters in the FIRST post of this thread:

"Formal recruitment silence period will begin the day of Panhellenic Convocation through until bid distribution.
• No active sorority member, including alumnae and new members, may communicate or live with potential new members during this period of silence.
• Silence is defined as any verbal, nonverbal, written, printed, text message and electronic communication or communication through a third party.
• If potential new members live in a residence hall with a sorority member or share academic courses, only casual greetings and contact are permitted."

[AGDCanada11]

Originally Posted by Titchou

I know this is a long thread but this topic is covered in giant letters in the FIRST post of this thread:

"Formal recruitment silence period will begin the day of Panhellenic Convocation through until bid distribution.
• No active sorority member, including alumnae and new members, may communicate or live with potential new members during this period of silence.
• Silence is defined as any verbal, nonverbal, written, printed, text message and electronic communication or communication through a third party.
• If potential new members live in a residence hall with a sorority member or share academic courses, only casual greetings and contact are permitted."

And this quote in the first post comes directly from the Panhellenic section of the OleMiss.edu website.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by AGDCanada11

And this quote in the first post comes directly from the Panhellenic section of the OleMiss.edu website.

And it's dumb and obviously not enforceable, nor should it be. Nobody's going to go without contacting her MOTHER because it might be a rush infraction.

[LuvMyPNM]

I believe it restricts contact between active members of a chapter at the school and all potential new members once the recruitment period has officially started. School-related conversation is ok such as you're in a class and have to talk about the class.

[FSUZeta]

I am not in charge so take this for what it is worth, but I would think that if the relative is involved on the campus where the PNM is rushing, whether as a collegiate sorority member or an alumna helping with recruitment at her sorority, then it might be considered a rush infraction for the PNM and the relative to communicate during the period of silence.

As far as Ole Miss goes, I personally know alumnae who take the silence period very seriously there, and will not even be on social media during the silence period.

[als463]

How can you enforce that alumnae have no contact with PNMs? When they say alumnae, do they mean specifically from the chapters on campus? My sorority is represented on campus there but, I am from another chapter. Does this technically mean I should not even talk to PNMs? Weird all around.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by als463

How can you enforce that alumnae have no contact with PNMs? When they say alumnae, do they mean specifically from the chapters on campus? My sorority is represented on campus there but, I am from another chapter. Does this technically mean I should not even talk to PNMs? Weird all around.

Use common sense. Don't talk to PNMs you wouldn't normally encounter and don't talk to the PNMs you would normally encounter about recruitment. The rule is written so generally as to be stupid, but we all know what they are trying to prevent.

[thetalady]

Originally Posted by als463

How can you enforce that alumnae have no contact with PNMs? When they say alumnae, do they mean specifically from the chapters on campus? My sorority is represented on campus there but, I am from another chapter. Does this technically mean I should not even talk to PNMs? Weird all around.

It is the honor system. The intent is to try to remove as many outside influences as possible from the recruitment process, so that the PNMs can make their own decisions. Ole Miss has had a lot of issues with interaction between PNMs and sorority alumnae during rush. They are trying what thay can to stop the undue pressure.

[Hearttoheart]

Originally Posted by thetalady

It is the honor system. The intent is to try to remove as many outside influences as possible from the recruitment process, so that the PNMs can make their own decisions. Ole Miss has had a lot of issues with interaction between PNMs and sorority alumnae during rush. They are trying what thay can to stop the undue pressure.

Last year when my daughter went through recruitment at Ole Miss, she had three alumnae from three different chapters calling her daily to see where she stood. These same ladies were also calling me each day "checking in". All three of these ladies were very involved with their local chapters. (two of them were in town advising in their sororities' house) Both my daughter and I were very afraid that she would get cut from chapters if she didn't tell these ladies that their chapter was her "favorite chapter". On one hand it was reassuring for us to know she was still in the running, but on the other hand, she was very scared of saying the wrong thing and hurting feelings! After skit, she finally broke down and told one of the ladies that another sorority was her favorite. We will never know for sure if she was cut from that chapter that night because of what she reveled to that Alum, or if the actives just didn't have her high enough on their list.

Personally, they added so much extra pressure! This year, it will be good for the alumnae to be held to silent standards as well! The actives all followed the rules, it was the Alumnae who stepped out of bounds. (at least in my opinion)

All you moms out there, be very careful what you say to chapter alumnae if they try contacting you. If you say the wrong thing, it could hurt your daughters recruitment!

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Hearttoheart

Last year when my daughter went through recruitment at Ole Miss, she had three alumnae from three different chapters calling her daily to see where she stood. These same ladies were also calling me each day "checking in". All three of these ladies were very involved with their local chapters. (two of them were in town advising in their sororities' house) Both my daughter and I were very afraid that she would get cut from chapters if she didn't tell these ladies that their chapter was her "favorite chapter". On one hand it was reassuring for us to know she was still in the running, but on the other hand, she was very scared of saying the wrong thing and hurting feelings! After skit, she finally broke down and told one of the ladies that another sorority was her favorite. We will never know for sure if she was cut from that chapter that night because of what she reveled to that Alum, or if the actives just didn't have her high enough on their list.

Personally, they added so much extra pressure! This year, it will be good for the alumnae to be held to silent standards as well! The actives all followed the rules, it was the Alumnae who stepped out of bounds. (at least in my opinion)

All you moms out there, be very careful what you say to chapter alumnae if they try contacting you. If you say the wrong thing, it could hurt your daughters recruitment!

I'm sorry, I can't find a nice way to say this. Those alumnae are just plain f'ing psycho.

I'm going to repeat a post I made in MC: one of my college friends (from another sorority) has a daughter going thru rush this fall and asked for advice for the daughter from about two dozen of her friends, some her sorority sisters, some in other groups. EVERY SINGLE PERSON who replied said that what was most important was that daughter follow her heart and choose where she felt most comfortable. Legacy? It would be nice, but not if she's not comfortable. Would I like her as my sister? Yes, she's a lovely girl, but not if the chapter's not right for her.

How pathetic and empty are these women's lives that they feel the need to bully others into, when it comes down to it, who they should choose as friends? This is a total travesty of what Greek life and sisterhood is supposed to be about. Those women should have their pins pulled. I don't care how much time or money they put into their organization, they're rotten members. Of their orgs, and of NPC in general.

[Stellastar1]

Originally Posted by Hearttoheart

Last year when my daughter went through recruitment at Ole Miss, she had three alumnae from three different chapters calling her daily to see where she stood. These same ladies were also calling me each day "checking in". All three of these ladies were very involved with their local chapters. (two of them were in town advising in their sororities' house) Both my daughter and I were very afraid that she would get cut from chapters if she didn't tell these ladies that their chapter was her "favorite chapter". On one hand it was reassuring for us to know she was still in the running, but on the other hand, she was very scared of saying the wrong thing and hurting feelings! After skit, she finally broke down and told one of the ladies that another sorority was her favorite. We will never know for sure if she was cut from that chapter that night because of what she reveled to that Alum, or if the actives just didn't have her high enough on their list.

Personally, they added so much extra pressure! This year, it will be good for the alumnae to be held to silent standards as well! The actives all followed the rules, it was the Alumnae who stepped out of bounds. (at least in my opinion)

All you moms out there, be very careful what you say to chapter alumnae if they try contacting you. If you say the wrong thing, it could hurt your daughters recruitment!

This is such great advice! Ole Miss Rush is stressful enough without alumnae calling PNMs. It happens every year!

[FSUZeta]

I understand that in the past NPC has had to remind some overly enthusiastic Ole Miss alumnae that they should not be communicating with PNMs during silence period. I don't know the details.

[swarmina]

Thanks everyone for your input. I am not involved at all on my freshman's campus, other than as a parent, and it just occurred to me that I should figure this out. I would in no way ever intend meddling with the process, but wanted to know if it was alright to talk to her at all during formal recruitment. I did read the FIRST post and that is what made me ask.

[Titchou]

Since Ole Miss has been "talked to" about their alumnae over involvement in the past, it might be best to just let her know you're there if she needs you. I'm sure the RCs will impress all this upon them appropriately.