"Southern" Sororities?

[macallan25]

I would say real estate, finance, accounting, business, legal studies, political science......or if you plan on inheriting lofty sums of family money and getting a high end job at your father's firm without having to do anything, then leisure studies is always a good one.

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by macallan25

I would say real estate, finance, accounting, business, legal studies, political science......or if you plan on inheriting lofty sums of family money and getting a high end job at your father's firm without having to do anything, then leisure studies is always a good one.

Bless your heart. Do you really think that undergrad degrees in those areas are going to help you more than another liberal arts degree would? If anything, businesses, law schools, and other graduate schools would prefer candidates who have something a little different, that sets them apart from everyone else yet prepares them with the same skill set. If you're going to be a real estate agent or a CPA, sure, get specialized degrees in those areas. But do you really think you have to major in some specific thing to go to law school or to go into the business world in general? Hell, you can get into medical school with a liberal arts degree like African-American Studies if you've supplemented it right - and probably sail right over applicants with majors like Biology and Chemistry.

[shinerbock]

You're right about the majors, DST, liberal grad schools eat that stuff up. Thankfully we usually don't have to compete with them for jobs, however. On a side note, quit trying to show that you're southern. I don't think you dropping lines like "bless your heart," is convincing anyone that you're some sort of southern belle.

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

You're right about the majors, DST, liberal grad schools eat that stuff up. Thankfully we usually don't have to compete with them for jobs, however. On a side note, quit trying to show that you're southern. I don't think you dropping lines like "bless your heart," is convincing anyone that you're some sort of southern belle.

And I want to convince everyone I'm "some sort of Southern belle"? What does *that* mean?

[shinerbock]

Well, I've seen a few instances when you've tried to refute our points about the south with your own, and I don't think your statements reflect our values/opinions. I simply don't want people to think your viewpoints are shared by the majority of southerners.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by DSTRen13

Bless your heart. Do you really think that undergrad degrees in those areas are going to help you more than another liberal arts degree would? If anything, businesses, law schools, and other graduate schools would prefer candidates who have something a little different, that sets them apart from everyone else yet prepares them with the same skill set. If you're going to be a real estate agent or a CPA, sure, get specialized degrees in those areas. But do you really think you have to major in some specific thing to go to law school or to go into the business world in general? Hell, you can get into medical school with a liberal arts degree like African-American Studies if you've supplemented it right - and probably sail right over applicants with majors like Biology and Chemistry.

Did I say they would help me anymore? No. I didn't say that at all. I chose my major because it interested me....and because it has allowed me to be prepared more for my summer internships at firms. I'm not worried about having to set myself apart from other people to get into law school. Take SMU for instance, my other top choice for law school besides Texas. The fact that I eat dinner and play golf with Michael M. Boone and his family (co-founder of that "tiny" little law firm called Haynes Boone) on any given weekend is going to facilitate me getting into SMU Law alot more than me majoring in something along the lines of Women's/African American Studies.

Thanks for the lecture though.

[sdsuchelle]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

It's called "male-centered language" and is part of perpetuating a patriarchal and sexist society.

This is true.

I believe that using male-centered language does perpetuate a male-dominated society.. when you hear male-centered words for your whole life, it affects you, even if you don't realize it.

Although, I don't make an issue of it when I hear someone use that kind of language. I try not to, myself, but whatever. I have bigger fish to fry.

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Well, I've seen a few instances when you've tried to refute our points about the south with your own, and I don't think your statements reflect our values/opinions. I simply don't want people to think your viewpoints are shared by the majority of southerners.

And I don't want anyone to think that your viewpoints represent EVERYONE in the South. I think it would be fair to say that we each value different things about the South, but that doesn't make what I value or my opinions any less worthy than yours.

[shinerbock]

Which is fine, but when me or Macallan say something about greek life in the south, it generally has been on par with how it really is. Now I've stated before that at small directional southern schools, this may not be true, but regarding the prominant southern campuses and greek life organizations, I think it is. Somebody can say, "I'm a huge liberal and I live in Atlanta..." but that is obviously not reflective of political views in the South. I think your viewpoints are probably the exception, not the rule. Just clarifying.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

at small directional southern schools, this may not be true, but regarding the prominant southern campuses and greek life organizations, I think it is. . . . Just clarifying.

Just to clarify a little more, what exactly do you mean by "directional"? And what qualifies as "prominant." Because I can think of quite a few small, and I presume "directional," schools that I would consider significantly more "prominant" (as in prestigious) than many of the, for example, SEC schools.

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Which is fine, but when me or Macallan say something about greek life in the south, it generally has been on par with how it really is. Now I've stated before that at small directional southern schools, this may not be true, but regarding the prominant southern campuses and greek life organizations, I think it is. Somebody can say, "I'm a huge liberal and I live in Atlanta..." but that is obviously not reflective of political views in the South. I think your viewpoints are probably the exception, not the rule. Just clarifying.

I think for certain types of Southern campuses, that's the case. Other campuses, not so much. I'm not really sure what you mean by a "small directional Southern school" so I don't know if I agree with that dividing line or not - several larger and smaller schools don't fit your mold, just as several larger and smaller schools do, so I wouldn't really see size as being the deciding factor. It seems to have more to do with the culture and history of the school.

[shinerbock]

I think you're right, and I agree with that. By directional school, I meant people who are like "southern greek life isn't like that, and I know, I went to Middle Tenn. St, or NE Louisiana..." While thats fine, when speak of the attributes of southern greek life, we're talking about that which is distinctive to southern greek systems at big SEC type schools...You're right, there are better academic schools than SEC schools, although there really aren't too many in the south that trump them, or the other schools I would refer to...Texas and the like. Basically, I'm just arguing the defense people make when we say something about southern greek life or southern opinion, which usually consists of "I go to _____ and I'm not like that..." Nobody is saying everyone is like that, but refuting that it basically is like that is pointless. You can go to UGA, be in a bad fraternity, and say "we don't wear brooks brothers or vote republican," which may be true, but that doesn't refute the idea that most do dress and vote like that. If your point is that not everyone acts the way me or macallan or whoever do, that is completely understandable, but often I feel people are trying to sway other's image of the South with a portrayal I don't think is accurate.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by MysticCat81

Just to clarify a little more, what exactly do you mean by "directional"? And what qualifies as "prominant." Because I can think of quite a few small, and I presume "directional," schools that I would consider significantly more "prominant" (as in prestigious) than many of the, for example, SEC schools.

"Directional" means they're Northern, Southern, Northwestern, SouthEastern, etc... and is a negative term.

It's not only used in the South though, I know quite a few University of Illinois students that use it for Illinois' directional schools

[shinerbock]

I don't think its that negative...at least wrongfully so. I hear it most often when people are talking about a weak college football schedule...for example "who is Bama playing?"---"Some Mississippi directional school." If they were a really good school or had really good athletic programs, people would know their name. Another example, Southern Miss, which nobody really refers to as a directional school, at least not outside of Mississippi because they've established themselves as a decent program.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

I don't think its that negative...at least wrongfully so. I hear it most often when people are talking about a weak college football schedule...for example "who is Bama playing?"---"Some Mississippi directional school." If they were a really good school or had really good athletic programs, people would know their name. Another example, Southern Miss, which nobody really refers to as a directional school, at least not outside of Mississippi because they've established themselves as a decent program.

Hence you're using it in a negative fashion.

It's elitism, even when deserved. I'm not being critical of it, just acknowledging that it is negative. (I won't even bother to remember their name it's so inconsequential - Negative)