Information on HBGLOs

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by valkyrie
People who want information spoon fed to them on GC are the same people who take the elevator at the gym. Get off your butt and find out what you need to know, and if you don't need to know, why do you care?

Hey, I like you!!

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by RACooper
Alright I we'll try this again - so drop the snippy attitude and use the brain that the Lord hopefully gifted you with...

I said that it's hard to keep track of what each org. considers esoteric - which does make it hard to know what you can and cannot talk about...

Again....

This is why we tell you. Just keep your eyes and ears open and you may learn something.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by RACooper
No this thread is an honest attempt by me (and others) to try and understand some of the policies, procedures, and practices of orginizations that I admittedly know little about.

So, to show your "honesty," some of you will go on and on until the dead horse has been absorbed by the soil.

It isn't an "honest attempt" if you are unwilling to PAY ATTENTION enough to see that WE know how to answer your questions better than YOU know how to accept our answers.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally posted by JocelynC

I don't think I've responded to this thread yet but to add my two cents:

A general comment:

My mom is an NPHC alumnae and from my understanding, whatever information that an interest or unaffiliated person needed to know was on the website. If it wasn't there, that meant that the information was either something that just wasn't privy to non members or something that was for the interest to ask the members on her campus.

And alot of people might be annoyed whenever an NPHC member says "do you research", or "that's none of your business". But really, what right does anyone have to question the way they do things?

Formal rush is just set up different. It's all about Q and A with the sororities and PNM's and we try to answer all questions they might have. It's been my understanding that NPHC's, while receptive to most questions, do not want to play "Q and A" with interests and would rather them research first to answer the majority of their OWN questions before going any further with their pursuit.

Some people always ask "Why do interests have to do this?" or "Why is it that you all are so discreet?" or "What does your process entail?" In that organization, those things are just not to be discussed, just as certain things in NPC are not.

Some of you might say "Why can't you tell us this, we always share?" That's because our membership recruitement is such that we can.They cannot. It's not them being rude, it's not them being elitist, it's just the nature of their orgs that they can't share these things.

Just my opinion on some things. I try to be understanding of orgs with different policies other than my own. If only we could all be so thoughtful.

People on this site don't know when to leave well enough alone so I'll quote myself. And you know, remember when you were little and you asked your mom a question and her answer was "look it up"? I think that applies here too. Feel free to look it up, just stop the insanity. This thread is on HBGLO information. This could've been over and done about 100 or so posts ago if people just looked up and posted the websites.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by JocelynC
People on this site don't know when to leave well enough alone so I'll quote myself. And you know, remember when you were little and you asked your mom a question and her answer was "look it up"? I think that applies here too. Feel free to look it up, just stop the insanity. This thread is on HBGLO information. This could've been over and done about 100 or so posts ago if people just looked up and posted the websites.

What BGLO websites talk about the history of Iotas being founded as I Felta Thigh??

What BGLO websites talk about how people know which BGLO they want to join before they even know which school they want to go to???

-Rudey

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by Rudey
What BGLO websites talk about the history of Iotas being founded as I Felta Thigh??

What BGLO websites talk about how people know which BGLO they want to join before they even know which school they want to go to???

-Rudey

[WCUgirl]

With all due respect, I don't recall my mother telling me to look things up when I asked her questions.

What I'm curious about is how did people gather information before the age of the internet (or even people now who don't have internet access)? Sure, they could go to an interest meeting, but I thought it was bad to show interest in more than one organization? Or is going to an interest meeting for more than one organization okay?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by AXiD670
With all due respect, I don't recall my mother telling me to look things up when I asked her questions.

What I'm curious about is how did people gather information before the age of the internet (or even people now who don't have internet access)? Sure, they could go to an interest meeting, but I thought it was bad to show interest in more than one organization? Or is going to an interest meeting for more than one organization okay?

Here's a hint: Social norms often evolve with technology.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by AXiD670
With all due respect, I don't recall my mother telling me to look things up when I asked her questions.

What I'm curious about is how did people gather information before the age of the internet (or even people now who don't have internet access)? Sure, they could go to an interest meeting, but I thought it was bad to show interest in more than one organization? Or is going to an interest meeting for more than one organization okay?

They went and read lots of books at the library.

Some folks say that the chapter matters and then there are others on here talking about how you know what you want to do before you even know the chapter. And instead of trying to provide an answer if someone does know it, they say research it. Big Catch 22.

-Rudey

[elldawg]

Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
Or maybe lazy.

No one will explain things to you. If you are sincerely interested, go to the websites and read. You will learn all that you are allowed to know. If the answers to your questions aren't there, it's members only. I am surprised that people don't understand this. I did this years ago and learned a lot.

I have to disagree. I've yet to see a website that gives a good picture of the culture of NPHC orgs, my National website included (http://www.pbs1914.org). Your best bet to get the information you're looking for is to interact with NPHC greeks in person. You will have to go to a number of sources to get the entire picture.

If you talk to enough greeks, you'll discover some things that you could never read in a book. You'll learn about Minerva, doves, or sphinxes, or poodles, etc.

Get the books that have been recommended. In search of sisterhood is particularly good. I found the conflict between collegiate and alumnae members particularly interesting. This conflict is part of all NPHC orgs, even today. It also talks about what black greeks were doing back in the day. What were they looking for in new members.

Take what you get from this site with a grain of salt. Many NPHC greeks are very tight-lipped, and understandably so. However, not all NPHC greeks are so tight-lipped. Also, alot of the NPHC greeks here were spawned from KAZO. I love KAZO, but it reflects only a portion of the NPHC greek culture.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by elldawg
I have to disagree. I've yet to see a website that gives a good picture of the culture of NPHC orgs, my National website included (http://www.pbs1914.org). Your best bet to get the information you're looking for is to interact with NPHC greeks in person. You will have to go to a number of sources to get the entire picture.

Also, alot of the NPHC greeks here were spawned from KAZO. I love KAZO, but it reflects only a portion of the NPHC greek culture.

You aren't really disagreeing with her. She is saying to do research. She simply listed the websites as one point of research.

You are incorrect. A lot of NPHC greeks on GC were not spawned from KAZO. There are only a handful of NPHC posters on GC who were on KAZO before they came to GC. Myself NOT included.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by Rudey
They went and read lots of books at the library.

"Do your research"

[gpb1874]

this has been a really interesting thread! i have learned so much about the NPHC recruitment process and the reasoning behind it. to those of you who have shared information, thank you! it has become more aparent to me how different the NPC/NIC and NPHC membership selection process works, both from the chapter perspective and that of the potential new members. I always knew it was different, just didn't know the reasoning behind some of it.

i work in Greek affairs and have one NPHC sorority, so this has helped shed some light onto the general NPHC recrutiment process and helped put into perspective their specific intake process.

i also have a better understanding of the broader picture of alum participation/role/responsibility in both NPHC and NPC/NIC, especially in how it is valued and what is expected.

it all makes more sense now, cheesy or dorky as that may sound! you may commence making fun of me now for being a dork..

[elldawg]

Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
You aren't really disagreeing with her. She is saying to do research. She simply listed the websites as one point of research.

You are incorrect. A lot of NPHC greeks on GC were not spawned from KAZO. There are only a handful of NPHC posters on GC who were on KAZO before they came to GC. Myself NOT included.

she said:

No one will explain things to you

I disagree. If this person talks to enough greeks, they will find someone who will explain some things to them.

If you are sincerely interested, go to the websites and read. You will learn all that you are allowed to know.

I disagree. Having been to all of the NPHC Org National websites, I believe the sites are deficient on truly useful information. Again, find the right greeks, get good answers.

If the answers to your questions aren't there, it's members only.

I disagree. As I have already stated, there is a lot of information that isn't readily available about the culture of greek orgs. This information isn't necessarily members only.

[Rudey]

Thank you.

-Rudey

Originally posted by elldawg
she said:

No one will explain things to you

I disagree. If this person talks to enough greeks, they will find someone who will explain some things to them.

If you are sincerely interested, go to the websites and read. You will learn all that you are allowed to know.

I disagree. Having been to all of the NPHC Org National websites, I believe the sites are deficient on truly useful information. Again, find the right greeks, get good answers.

If the answers to your questions aren't there, it's members only.

I disagree. As I have already stated, there is a lot of information that isn't readily available about the culture of greek orgs. This information isn't necessarily members only.