Why do multicultural GLOs/organizations exist?

[shinerbock]

Dio, you know I was being sarcastic, right?

[brobuzzz]

I would just like to point out that this is impossible, as there are only 5 NPHC fraternities and 4 NPHC sororities.

Please excuse my disdain for non-round numbers. 8 NPHC chapters, 4 IFC and 4 NPC each with 50 members with a greek population making up 4% of the total population of 20,000 in the school. My point still stands.

As far as the remainder of the discussion in this thread, I could refer you to the websites of several BGLOs, AGLOs, LGLOs, and MCGLOs which would indeed educate you as to how the generalizations made here are pretty much ridiculous, but I doubt those of you with your opinions set in stone (about how pointless/unpopular/etc. these types of orgs are) would even look.

What generalizations have I made? When did I even imply that your alphabet soup of acronyms was pointless, unpopular, etc? (This reads like a government budget) Clearly if people have taken oaths in the name of these groups they are at least popular to those people no?

If you do indeed choose to take a look, one particular example is www.sigmalambdagamma.com - under Infrastructure, Sorority Entities, and then Chapters, you can find the individual chapter websites, all of which outline the diversity and purpose of the organization. Also on the national website, the Mission Statement, the Vision, and other goals/achievements can be found by perusing the links at the top of the page.

Thank you for implying I did not care about anyone else's standards, but I in fact did read the aforementioned pages, and I fail to see how that is even relevant to what I said before. My point is that while "cultural awareness" and having sisters that are more likely not to be the same race as you may be high on your list of "desireable Greek Organization traits," for me it's not. I went in the direction of "virtue," "character," and "sacred purpose." Here, if you care to look - (http://www.thetachi.org/about/Creed.asp).

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Tucker Carlson

if people on this site value diversity so much why do yall always hate on us for giving our opinions. I mean by us posting here we are adding to the diversity of this board.

There is a difference between opinions and pronouncements.

[bows&toes]

Originally Posted by 33girl

There is a difference between opinions and pronouncements.

pro·nounce·ment ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pr-nounsmnt)
n.
A formal expression of opinion; a judgment

It seemed like you were the one making judgments earlier about shinerbock, while he was just giving honest opinions?

[33girl]

Originally Posted by bows&toes

pro·nounce·ment ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pr-nounsmnt)
n.
A formal expression of opinion; a judgment

thanks

[bows&toes]

Originally Posted by bows&toes

It seemed like you were the one making judgments earlier about shinerbock, while he was just giving honest opinions?

I apologize, maybe you didn't catch my edit.

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Dio, you know I was being sarcastic, right?

Yes.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by bows&toes

I apologize, maybe you didn't catch my edit.

I didn't.

He wasn't giving honest opinions IMO, he was making judgements - as he has been ever since he got here. But I guess you'd call my opinion of his judgement a judgement of his opinion.


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[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by xo_kathy

OK, you said you had no reason at all to join the orgs shiner was referring to (which I think we all agree are probably NPC orgs at Southern schools). However you said the above were two reasons you joined your org. I would venture to guess that those two reasons are also on the minds of many NPC PNMs - be they white or non-white, ugly or pretty, Northern or Southern.

I do apologize for putting words in your mouth in reference to beer drinking and boys. So not to cause more confusion, I'd be interested to know what it is those women were looking for in their orgs that you were "not at all" interested in?

I don't think anyone who didn't choose the NPC route can really know what those women look for in their orgs for sure. I mean, there's something they wanted that I didn't that drew them to that, and I couldn't say for sure what that is. I know what drew me to my GLOs - first, with OPhiA, the strong commitment and focus on community service combined with sisterhood, which I hadn't seen before, and then, with Delta, again, the commitment and focus on community service (particularly the types of service), the strong life commitment and dedication I see in the members, and the emphasis on values I believe in. I am sure that if for some reason I had had to join an NPC group way back freshman year, I would have found somewhere I'd have been alright and gotten by okay, but it would not have been anywhere near as fulfilling for me. Because it's not where I belong. No offense

[xo_kathy]

I am not at all offended by your choices.

My post was to Jeni because she specifically said she was "not at all" interested in the reasons the NPC ladies joined NPCs. I'd like to know what those reasons are. It seems like a pretty sweeping generalization. Especially, as you pointed out, she probably really doesn't know why those women chose an NPC.

[Tucker Carlson]

Originally Posted by 33girl

This is the song that has no end,
It just goes on and on my friend!
Some people started singing it.
Not knowing what it was,
And they'll continue singing it,
Forever just because,
This is the song that has no end,
It just goes on and on my friend!
Some people started singing it.
Not knowing what it was,
And they'll continue singing it,
Forever just because,
This is the song that has no end,
It just goes on and on my friend!
Some people started singing it.
Not knowing what it was,
And they'll continue singing it,
Forever just because,
This is the song that has no end,
It just goes on and on my friend....

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[shinerbock]

33girl, no they're my opinions. Everyone else seems to recognize this but you.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by xo_kathy

Yes, I can read. Which is why I said in my post: "you said the above were two reasons you joined your org". I did not say they were the only reasons.

Why didn't I join your org? Well, firstly, they were not on my campus so I was not exposed to it. MCGLOs weren't yet too big when I was in school. Also, my mother is a Kappa, so I was familiar with NPC Greek life though was not "groomed" for it. I went through rush to see if NPC life at my school might be right for me, and I found that Chi Omega was what I wanted to be a part of.

I have no issue with MCGLOs. I agree they also have their niche.

However, you still have not answered my question:
what it is those women were looking for in their NPC orgs that you were "not at all" interested in?

My two primary reasons for pursuing Theta Nu Xi over an NPC org were 1) the national push to create opportunities for and commit to hands-on community service (along with philanthropic giving) and 2) the GAP program. NPHC sororities offer both of those opportunities but there are other reasons I did not intently pursue an NPHC org. NPC sororities do not offer me all the things I desire that Theta Nu Xi does.

ETA: I've gone back through the thread and can't find where I said "not at all interested." I did say, "But they want things in a sorority that don't hold any interest for me at all." Now, this is coming from my NPC recruitment experience at UGA, but those "things" include, but are not limited to 1) living in a house with lots of other women, 2) being part of a huge chapter (as I've mentioned before, Theta Nu Xi discourages chapters larger than 30), 3) engaging in a vast number of social events (I wanted a mix of social and service), and 4) traditions that differ greatly from chapter to chapter within the same organization. Much of what was stressed and advertised during recruitment turned me off. I gave it a shot, though, because my mother is a Pi Phi.

It appears that you are trying to make me out to be a villain, but I don't understand why.

[shinerbock]

what is a GAP program

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

what is a GAP program

GAP is Graduate, Alumnae and Professional. We have undergrad and GAP chapters. Both have essentially the same standards and participate in similar events. GAP chapters are quite active, sometimes moreso than undergrad because they are fully operational year round. Theta Nu Xi was the first multicultural sorority to institute such a program for women who have already graduated with their bachelors degrees. Eligible women may be intiated directly into a GAP chapter. In fact, we have a National Board member who is responsible for such activity, the Director of GAP Intake.