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Old 09-24-2008, 11:55 PM
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Ehhh too late.....LOL

Palin hasn't been tainted?


I duunnnnoooooo....cocooned?

YUP!

check out some of the Alaskan news site....they are real eye openers.
Well, at least better than having your own VP candidate criticizing your attack ad:

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008...k-ad-terrible/
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:27 AM
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Interesting Fact of the Day

Since we are talking about race relations...

Senator Obama left the "race" field blank when he applied to the Harvard Law School. No one can scream that he benefited from affirmative action! Did anyone else know this? I heard it on the Rachel Maddow Show (MSNBC).
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:28 AM
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In my opinion, Hillary's and McCain's platforms are quite similar one way or another
Hillary just threw up and doesn't know why.
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:29 AM
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(DS sez...and here is yet another opinion...)

White Privilege and the Election

I was really happy to see this article on white privilege and politics over at Alternet today. It seems that in the hub bub that is Palin and all her faux feminism, the media has all but forgotten the racial dynamics at play in this presidential election. An excerpt from the piece:


White privilege is when you can get pregnant at 17 like Bristol Palin and everyone is quick to insist that your life and that of your family is a personal matter, and that no one has a right to judge you or your parents, because "every family has challenges," even as black and Latino families with similar "challenges" are regularly typified as irresponsible, pathological and arbiters of social decay.

I experienced this one first hand. Marvelyn and I submitted an op-ed about the ways in which her situation (unprotected sex leading to HIV infection) was similar to Bristol's (unprotected sex leading to unplanned pregnancy), the difference being that you can't slap a wedding ring on your finger and expect the nation to de-shame you if you're a young black woman with HIV. The op-ed editor, of a major, well respected newspaper, wrote back, "I'm sorry, but I fail to see the similarities here."

Yeah, because you fail to see white privilege. Unpack the knapsack people.


http://www.feministing.com/archives/011104.html
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:31 AM
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Well, at least better than having your own VP candidate criticizing your attack ad:

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008...k-ad-terrible/
K...

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But Biden said he didn’t think there was anything intentionally personal in the ad — and argued that it doesn’t sink to the level the McCain ad accusing Obama of voting to teach kindergarteners about sex. The Obama campaign says the bill would help children avoid predators. “Very different in degree,” Biden said.
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Since we are talking about race relations...

Senator Obama left the "race" field blank when he applied to the Harvard Law School. No one can scream that he benefited from affirmative action! Did anyone else know this? I heard it on the Rachel Maddow Show (MSNBC).
I hadn't heard that at all. Was it verified as fact in some way?
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:35 AM
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Consider this too, look at who McCain picked for VEEP...an underqualified woman IMO done to take some of the shine off of Obama's campaign and not just to get women votes...it's a stunt to show 'Hey, we Repubs can be diverse too!"
Diverse?! Ha! Have you seen the Republican Convention? Old, white guys with money! No exactly representative of the diverse makeup of this country.
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:37 AM
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K...

I hadn't heard that at all. Was it verified as fact in some way?
I googled and found a mention...
http://althouse.blogspot.com/2008/08...lly-think.html

ETA: I guess it hasn't been confirmed true or false.
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:38 AM
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(DS sez...and here is yet another opinion...)

White Privilege and the Election

I was really happy to see this article on white privilege and politics over at Alternet today. It seems that in the hub bub that is Palin and all her faux feminism, the media has all but forgotten the racial dynamics at play in this presidential election. An excerpt from the piece:


White privilege is when you can get pregnant at 17 like Bristol Palin and everyone is quick to insist that your life and that of your family is a personal matter, and that no one has a right to judge you or your parents, because "every family has challenges," even as black and Latino families with similar "challenges" are regularly typified as irresponsible, pathological and arbiters of social decay.

I experienced this one first hand. Marvelyn and I submitted an op-ed about the ways in which her situation (unprotected sex leading to HIV infection) was similar to Bristol's (unprotected sex leading to unplanned pregnancy), the difference being that you can't slap a wedding ring on your finger and expect the nation to de-shame you if you're a young black woman with HIV. The op-ed editor, of a major, well respected newspaper, wrote back, "I'm sorry, but I fail to see the similarities here."

Yeah, because you fail to see white privilege. Unpack the knapsack people.


http://www.feministing.com/archives/011104.html
I never get tired of reading White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack. Interesting that nearly 20 years after the piece was written, people are still denying that white privilege exists or are trying to divert attention by pointing to class privilege as if class privilege were not wholly dependent on the structure of white privilege.
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Old 09-25-2008, 07:19 AM
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May I ask you to elaborate? And do you mean most "Registered Republicans" who vote that party or "Elected Republicans" who actually write public policy? (Or is this another GC Race War?? ha!)
Just republicans in general. It's a little too early in the morning for me to elaborate, but I'll try to remember to come back to this thread later.
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Old 09-25-2008, 10:58 AM
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Hillary just threw up and doesn't know why.
I was thinking "Hillary just got violently angry and punched Bill in the face, but doesn't know why."

She's vehemently against McCain as President. And I think she'd rather pluck her leg hair out one by one than have Palin as Veep.
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:42 AM
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interesting article...doesn't seem like now that the dust is settling, Palin isn't having the big OOMPH that McCain was lookign for among white women that he was hoping for....

http://www.gallup.com/poll/110638/Di...ite-Women.aspx

Uhhhhh...John...when you pick a youngish chick that threatens to take away a choice that some even older than her has fought for, well.... that may not go over too well.
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