Hazed: A greek tragedy at Northwestern-Lambda Phi Epsilon

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by nwu43

Ugh.. that's strange. I'll write you again later (it took me awhile to write that PM reply). Thanks for at least keeping an open mind though and not immediately jumping to conclusions.

If you sent it, you might want to check your "sent" folder in your email box and make sure it was correctly addressed.

[my apologies everyone, I'll clean this up when I get his PM]

[pReciouSdRaguN]

Originally Posted by cp.pride

Peter had to DIG UP THE TRUTH, by putting together the details bit by bit and pieces by pieces until he discovered everything and put it down on paper. HOW IS THAT UNETHICAL OR HALF TRUTHS? he constructed the WHOLE story by using small details. Do you realize how much effort that would take?

But this idea of "truth" doesnt necessarily mean that EVERYTHING he writes about is accurate, although it may hold some truth to it. And it's hard to say what has/is really happening if he had to "dig up the truth" and "put together the details bit by bit." Who's to say that they are 100% accurate? The media does distort certain details.

And this isnt to say that your friend isnt a good journalist. Im just saying that there are other sides and perceptions to take into account. That's all.

[DGTess]

Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE

These guys should get kicked off campus, not necessarily because of the hazing, but just because they are complete idiots.

If they kicked complete idiots off of campuses, most schools would have to close.

[APOBee7519]

I know that being a member of Alpha Phi Omega they have strict standards of how they pledge people, but to know that Northwestern a prestige school would allow frats and sorrorities to haze people. I can understand little things like harmless jokes, but when they get you to binge drink until you pass out is crossing the line. It was past generations of fraternity and sorrority members that passed on their ignorant and harmful tactics to get freshman to pledge. It's bad that schools don't shut down the chapters and report them to the organizations national headquarters. What makes no sense is that you should be able to pledge without the dangerous pranks and binge drinking. I was given honorary status with the frat/sorrority organization I was with to progress into full membership with all the rights and privileges.

[PhiGam]

I scanned the article... did a kid die or did the entire pledge class just pussy out and rat out the older brothers?

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

I scanned the article... did a kid die or did the entire pledge class just pussy out and rat out the older brothers?

Door #2.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by nwu43

Oy, I knew it would be a matter of time before this was brought up here.
Look I'm not even gonna bother because you guys seem to have bought into everything this guy has written in his sensational article.

But if you want to see this thing from our side of it as well, look for our statement in response (it will be published on Monday). Also FYI, we're not alone here trying to defend ourselves, as MGC and NPHC chapters here have also got our back and supports us.

Well, it is Monday.
Where is that statement?

[33girl]

Originally Posted by APOBee7519

I was given honorary status with the frat/sorrority organization I was with to progress into full membership with all the rights and privileges.

No, you weren't. (But then again, if you are referring to APO as a "frat/sorrority" that's another problem right there.)

[nwu43]

Originally Posted by jon1856

Well, it is Monday.
Where is that statement?

Sorry, we've decided over the weekend to get it to print later. We all know that the earlier that people can see our side to it, the better, but we now have a good reason not to rush this thing.

It will hopefully be out on Thursday (won't jump the gun and say "will" this time), after we've ensured that our response will not get edited and censored.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by nwu43

Sorry, we've decided over the weekend to get it to print later. We all know that the earlier that people can see our side to it, the better, but we now have a good reason not to rush this thing.

It will hopefully be out on Thursday (won't jump the gun and say "will" this time), after we've ensured that our response will not get edited and censored.

Could you please explain your last line???

[Senusret I]

nwu43, stop talking. You don't owe us anything. This is a matter for your national organization to handle -- it's bigger than you. Trust me on this.

(And I still owe you a reply to a PM from March - sorry!)

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

nwu43, stop talking. You don't owe us anything. This is a matter for your national organization to handle -- it's bigger than you. Trust me on this.

The best post in this thread.

[nwu43]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

nwu43, stop talking. You don't owe us anything. This is a matter for your national organization to handle -- it's bigger than you. Trust me on this.

(And I still owe you a reply to a PM from March - sorry!)

Thanks Senusret I.

I've been trying to be as careful as I could with what I say, but you're right (I was afraid not saying anything would make us look even worse).

[aggieAXO]

Personally having ALL of your pledges drop out makes you look pretty bad to me. I admit I am a little biased after hearing about the death of one of your pledges here in Austin 3 years ago.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by nwu43

(I was afraid not saying anything would make us look even worse).

No, not saying anything means that the GC Court of Opinion is unimportant.