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Old 12-12-2007, 12:17 PM
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I don't think she's trying to rationalize dating him at all. I think she's already ruled him out completely, and her older cousin is just trying to figure out why "nice guys finish last". I mean, that's really the situation - you have a young man with (it seems) all the potential in the world, with just some things that need to be worked on, and he's probably going to get passed over for some prettyboy or thug who's skating by on looks/intimidation/etc.
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:27 PM
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I mean, that's really the situation - you have a young man with (it seems) all the potential in the world, with just some things that need to be worked on, and he's probably going to get passed over for some prettyboy or thug who's skating by on looks/intimidation/etc.
That's dramatic.

He might just be passed up for the MANY men who are a total package and who aren't pretty boys or thugs. There are too many good catches out here for any ONE dude to think the sun rises on his ass just because he has "potential."

Tell him to spend his time working on making his "potential" a reality and leave the "nice guys with potential" rhetoric for women who give a damn. They are out there.
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:33 PM
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That's dramatic.

He might just be passed up for the MANY men who are a total package and who aren't pretty boys or thugs. There are too many good catches out here for any ONE dude to think the sun rises on his ass just because he has "potential."

Tell him to spend his time working on making his "potential" a reality and leave the "nice guys with potential" rhetoric fo women who give a damn. They are out there.
DS has a "thing" for posting dramatic-type questions, and since he said that he meant this as more of a "for the sake of argument" rather than actual advice for his cousin, I'm pretty sure that's sort of what he's going for.
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:34 PM
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DS has a "thing" for posting dramatic-type questions, and since he said that he meant this as more of a "for the sake of argument" rather than actual advice for his cousin, I'm pretty sure that's sort of what he's going for.
Yay.
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:39 PM
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I mean, that's really the situation - you have a young man with (it seems) all the potential in the world, with just some things that need to be worked on, and he's probably going to get passed over for some prettyboy or thug who's skating by on looks/intimidation/etc.


^^^ Pretty much in the ballpark....

But the question I am asking to try and move the conversation is, in your opinions, ladies, and gents if you have been there (some of us could give a damn about potential...LOL) what have you done or how have you handled someone in this situation that you may have considered dating?


Is it a challenge?

Is it something that you may want to stay around for the long haul ?

Or, do some of you prefer someone already there?
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:51 PM
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But the question I am asking to try and move the conversation is, in your opinions, ladies, and gents if you have been there (some of us could give a damn about potential...LOL) what have you done or how have you handled someone in this situation that you may have considered dating?


Is it a challenge?

Is it something that you may want to stay around for the long haul ?

Or, do some of you prefer someone already there?
If I were in her same situation, then I would probably vote NO. I agree with Chaos...there are plenty of guys who will share her same path in life. Why try to 'work with' someone who has potential, when it seems likely that she can find exactly what she wants, which isn't much (her age or greater, in school, attends church). I'm sure he's a nice guy, but her decision doesn't seem unreasonable, esp. since she isn't looking for marriage. They can always reconnect in a few years when they are both more settled and established.
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:18 PM
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True. Some younger women like the idea of a challenge, i.e. "I can change him".
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:29 PM
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True. Some younger women like the idea of a challenge, i.e. "I can change him".
"Potential" is also a challenge and some women get attached to the ability to change "potential" into "reality."

Get a man who is already there. That may be less possible at 20-22 but some of us posting have already left our 20s, anyway.
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:38 PM
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"Potential" is also a challenge and some women get attached to the ability to change "potential" into "reality."

Get a man who is already there. That may be less possible at 20-22 but some of us posting have already left our 20s, anyway.

AMEN!!!! If I knew in my 20s what I knew NOW, I'd be a lot less "touched" in the head.. lol...
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:41 PM
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The "question" you're asking is obvious.

The active posters have already answered it.
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:45 PM
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The "question" you're asking is obvious.

The active posters have already answered it.
So it is...but some missed:

"since he said that he meant this as more of a "for the sake of argument" rather than actual advice for his cousin"

and

"But, like I said...I was just using her as a detailed example not necessarily trying to get advice for her. "


So I am trying to steer the convo back to the question at hand...

Thanks for answering.
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Old 12-12-2007, 10:37 PM
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So it is...but some missed:

"since he said that he meant this as more of a "for the sake of argument" rather than actual advice for his cousin"

and

"But, like I said...I was just using her as a detailed example not necessarily trying to get advice for her. "


So I am trying to steer the convo back to the question at hand...

Thanks for answering.
I'm sure you get the point, either way.
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:49 PM
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If you like someone, sometimes you just have to give it a chance and see where it goes. My husband is five years older than I am...when we met, he had his own apartment, an established career, and was working on his master's degree; I was just out of college, living at home, and I didn't have a full-time job. If he had only looked at those things, and not given me a chance, he would have missed out on a lot.
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:52 PM
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If you like someone, sometimes you just have to give it a chance and see where it goes. My husband is five years older than I am...when we met, he had his own apartment, an established career, and was working on his master's degree; I was just out of college, living at home, and I didn't have a full-time job. If he had only looked at those things, and not given me a chance, he would have missed out on a lot.

Did either one of you have any hesitations early on that becauseof the differences that it may not work? How did you cope?
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Old 12-12-2007, 08:22 PM
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I think men may be a little less concerned about women's resumes than women are about men's.

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