Protest at Columbia over Iranian President

[KSig RC]

Daemon -

I actually like your posts on matters that aren't this close to you, because of your general irreverence, and you only really get hyper-defensive and inarticulate in this sort of emotionally charged thread so you're all good in my opinion . . . that said, if you would like to prove your intelligence, I will play you heads-up in any of the following games for any amount of money:

-Scrabble
-Trivial Pursuit (any edition except the esoteric ones, like Star Wars or the 80s or whatever)
-Boggle
-any derivation of poker or any standard card game with a standard wager, except bidding games (bridge)
-Stratego, Risk or similar
-Similar games can be negotiated for price and acceptibility

I would guess that MysticCat will take this same deal. I would also give you 10% give-back on your wager, meaning I will put up 10:9 on your dollars. Please accept, or stop stooping to Earp-ian levels of ninnying insults of intelligence that really don't add anything. Ad hominem attacks and strawman arguments suck, and add nothing to the conversation.

Win, and make all of them you'd like, dude.

GOGOGOOGOGOGOGGOGOOGO

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

Daemon -

I actually like your posts on matters that aren't this close to you, because of your general irreverence, and you only really get hyper-defensive and inarticulate in this sort of emotionally charged thread so you're all good in my opinion . . . that said, if you would like to prove your intelligence, I will play you heads-up in any of the following games for any amount of money:

-Scrabble
-Trivial Pursuit (any edition except the esoteric ones, like Star Wars or the 80s or whatever)
-Boggle
-any derivation of poker or any standard card game with a standard wager, except bidding games (bridge)
-Stratego, Risk or similar
-Similar games can be negotiated for price and acceptibility

I would guess that MysticCat will take this same deal. I would also give you 10% give-back on your wager, meaning I will put up 10:9 on your dollars. Please accept, or stop stooping to Earp-ian levels of ninnying insults of intelligence that really don't add anything. Ad hominem attacks and strawman arguments suck, and add nothing to the conversation.

Win, and make all of them you'd like, dude.

GOGOGOOGOGOGOGGOGOOGO

Sig no offense...but...

Guess what...

I don't need to prove shyt to you.


Especially if you want to call my posting "inarticulate" because you fail to see relevance.

I have a funny feeling you know what I am saying...but....

That's not my problem.


Any BTW..I'm not angry and don't let my heat make you believe as such...anger would be walking a mudhole thru one of you right now and since none of you come off as capable from here to push me to physical violence consider the matter over my 'emotional' state....irrelevant.

Drole you can translate that BTW

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Let me translate this one for you....

**AHEM**

"Drole....help....Seid and Kevin are at it again and you know that Kevin's snarky attitude skills suck so please come in and provide needed backup and be really super creative because you know that we can't and maybe that will make that awful Daemonseid person leave him alone, meanwhile I will sit back and play cheerleader for you guys. We will pay you in Scooby snacks!"

Is that close?

Alas, no. There's a reason you don't do this on a regular basis. I don't agree with Kevin, but you're not really providing much in the way of counter arguments. You're to intent at trying to show your superiority by belittling him, and others apparently, to actually do so by making well thought out, reasoned, arguments. MysticCat came to the same conclusion pre-translation.

By the way, nice dog reference. Woof Woof I'm a dog right? Just like I'm a man, baby. You're so witty.

Hint: No one will take you seriously if you can't express yourself effectively. You say you don't care, but you clearly desperately do.

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Sig no offense...but...

Guess what...
I don't need to prove shyt to you.

Aw, I guess compliments aren't ok for you either.
If you want to say shit, why don't you just say it. SHIT. See? Easy. The "i" key is located above and to the left of the "k" key.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Sig no offense...but...

Guess what...

I don't need to prove shyt to you.

Of course you don't, man - that was the whole point of my post!

Stop with the ridiculous personal attacks, because there's no way to back them up, and they detract from your point. If it's the greatest "zinger" in the world, it still doesn't invalidate another's point on its own - you have to prove your side.

You can't do that through insults, or taunting, or name-calling, or simply saying others don't understand. At some point, everyone else not understanding should indicate a problem with either the message or the messenger - it's Occam's Razor, and it should be a rule we all live by.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

Of course you don't, man - that was the whole point of my post!

Stop with the ridiculous personal attacks, because there's no way to back them up, and they detract from your point. If it's the greatest "zinger" in the world, it still doesn't invalidate another's point on its own - you have to prove your side.

You can't do that through insults, or taunting, or name-calling, or simply saying others don't understand. At some point, everyone else not understanding should indicate a problem with either the message or the messenger - it's Occam's Razor, and it should be a rule we all live by.

I tell you what...you start...and If I like where you are going...I will go with you

[DSTCHAOS]

He shouldn't have been invited to speak. Free speech on AMERICAN soil doesn't apply to terrorists and known supporters of terrorism. This goes to how I feel about any noncitizen who comes here, when you're HERE you will be treated as a human being but not necessarily given the same citizenship rights as citizens receive or given a platform to speak. Just like how Americans are often treated when we go to OTHER countries, especially Americans who are accused of tormenting or encouraging the torment of the citizens of other countries.

The president of Columbia is a cowardly moron. He waits until he's introducing the speaker to make negative remarks that will appease his critics.

Iran doesn't have gay people, everyone. Announcement.

Why did it seem like almost every news analyst on Fox News an alum of Columbia University?

[Rudey]

These guys were there yesterday: http://www.tfp.org/

I swear this was by far the scariest thing on Columbia's campus.

-Rudey

[Sugar08]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

He shouldn't have been invited to speak. Free speech on AMERICAN soil doesn't apply to terrorists and known supporters of terrorism. This goes to how I feel about any noncitizen who comes here, when you're HERE you will be treated as a human being but not necessarily given the same citizenship rights as citizens receive or given a platform to speak.

I generally agree with you on this. BUT I think that because of the power this man wields, and the fact that our current (and probably next) campaign is being fought in the vicinity of Iran (and will probably be fought IN Iran), giving him a platform to speak was not only necessary, it was the right thing to do. He's not just some faceless terrorist you see on Al-Jazeera spitting vitriol.

And anyway, he only confirmed the negative opinions of many of the posters here, and I'd wager, most American citizens.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Sugar08

I generally agree with you on this. BUT I think that because of the power this man wields, and the fact that our current (and probably next) campaign is being fought in the vicinity of Iran (and will probably be fought IN Iran), giving him a platform to speak was not only necessary, it was the right thing to do. He's not just some faceless terrorist you see on Al-Jazeera spitting vitriol.

And anyway, he only confirmed the negative opinions of many of the posters here, and I'd wager, most American citizens.

See the enemy now before he goes into hiding with Bin Ladin.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Sugar08

He's not just some faceless terrorist you see on Al-Jazeera spitting vitriol.

Which is why he should not have been invited. We know who Bin Laden is, too, if we could find him should he be invited to the White House for tea? Keep your enemies close to you but don't sit at the dinner table with them.

Giving him the platform wasn't necessary and it wasn't smart. And people are pretending that Columbia Univ did it for some greater cause. They did it to solidify their status as a liberal University, with far left tendencies depending on the issue, and consistent intolerance for Conservatives. All under the guise of intellectual development of the student body.

Hell, the ROTC isn't allowed on campus and The Minute Men were THREATENED and basically chased off campus. Columbia is full of it and I agree with the alum who are withdrawing their financial support.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Hell, the ROTC isn't allowed on campus and The Minute Men were THREATENED and basically chased off campus. Columbia is full of it and I agree with the alum who are withdrawing their financial support.

Incredible. I wasn't aware.

[Sugar08]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

And people are pretending that Columbia Univ did it for some greater cause. They did it to solidify their status as a liberal University, with far left tendencies depending on the issue, and consistent intolerance for Conservatives. All under the guise of intellectual development of the student body.

Hell, the ROTC isn't allowed on campus and The Minute Men were THREATENED and basically chased off campus. Columbia is full of it and I agree with the alum who are withdrawing their financial support.

I agree that Columbia had some ulterior motives. And ultra-liberals are just as bad as ultra-conservatives. But I don't really have a problem with this guy coming to campus and speaking, because I feel like I learned something.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Sugar08

But I don't really have a problem with this guy coming to campus and speaking, because I feel like I learned something.

Well that's certainly a self-centered way of looking at it.

Forget the fact that this whole incident will be re-played in Iran to make the U.S. look weak and stupid. Forget the fact that we're laughing stocks because the U.S. government couldn't keep a known TERRORIST from speaking at a private, left wing University on American soil. Imagine what would happen if other countries were as stupid as we are?

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Giving him the platform wasn't necessary and it wasn't smart. And people are pretending that Columbia Univ did it for some greater cause. They did it to solidify their status as a liberal University, with far left tendencies depending on the issue, and consistent intolerance for Conservatives. All under the guise of intellectual development of the student body.

Hell, the ROTC isn't allowed on campus and The Minute Men were THREATENED and basically chased off campus. Columbia is full of it and I agree with the alum who are withdrawing their financial support.

Truer words were never spoken. It was almost like Bollinger got him on the platform to harangue him, getting brownie points from his whiny undergrads and lefty PhD students.

The Minutemen thing EMBARASSED me and I tell that to every kid who calls asking for donations. Bollinger is a Constitutional scholar who allows this nonsense to go on in the name of liberal tyranny. Columbia is so full of it! But I'm thinking about B-school there, so take what I say with a grain of salt...

[jon1856]

The Op-Ed cartoons had a field day with this.
Several very good ones.
http://cagle.com/news/IranPresidentVisit/main.asp