Mississippi Election Row Sees Race Roles Reversed

[Kevin]

Aside from a decent public education (which theoretically should be ensured if NCLB standards are enforced in MS), I'm not sure what you could possibly mean? I'm not familiar with the educational system in rural Mississippi, but I'm sure NCLB standards will help those systems to reform.

Any other reform decisions ought to remain local. If these folks choose to continue to live in poverty and poor conditions, that's on them. Perhaps that's a familiar existence which they enjoy? If they want more, there are plenty of unskilled labor jobs available, you know, those jobs Americans won't do?

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Aside from a decent public education (which theoretically should be ensured if NCLB standards are enforced in MS), I'm not sure what you could possibly mean? I'm not familiar with the educational system in rural Mississippi, but I'm sure NCLB standards will help those systems to reform.

Any other reform decisions ought to remain local. If these folks choose to continue to live in poverty and poor conditions, that's on them. Perhaps that's a familiar existence which they enjoy? If they want more, there are plenty of unskilled labor jobs available, you know, those jobs Americans won't do?

Kevin, I really don't understand the point of this post in relation to your previous post. I don't think anyone insinuated 'forcing' aid on anyone, and I'm not sure we can make any assumption you've made here in discussing this topic.

Are you truly positing that all you need to survive anywhere in America is a high school education that meets the government's standards as set forth in NCLB?

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

Are you truly positing that all you need to survive anywhere in America is a high school education that meets the government's standards as set forth in NCLB?

Survive, perhaps, maybe not thrive. There are other social services which may be needed as well. I'm not interested in social services which allow people to thrive, however. Education should be about presenting people with an opportunity to thrive, nothing more. NCLB seems to do that about as well as anything could.

I'm all for career rehabilitative services, etc. as well. I am not sure, however, what Monet meant by getting these people the aid they "deserve." Presumably, they already receive quite a bit of federal and state aid. Like the rest of the country, I'm sure they have access to programs such as job corps. If they have equal access to a decent education which affords them the opportunity for additional training/college, then I think the American people have done their part.

[RU OX Alum]

VA owes MS nothing

[LaneSig]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Aside from a decent public education (which theoretically should be ensured if NCLB standards are enforced in MS), I'm not sure what you could possibly mean? I'm not familiar with the educational system in rural Mississippi, but I'm sure NCLB standards will help those systems to reform.
Any other reform decisions ought to remain local. If these folks choose to continue to live in poverty and poor conditions, that's on them. Perhaps that's a familiar existence which they enjoy? If they want more, there are plenty of unskilled labor jobs available, you know, those jobs Americans won't do?

They will only help if the fed government provided enough adequate funds to finance the programs. They didn't here in Texas and I doubt they did in Mississippi.

[AKA_Monet]

MS and Louisiana has several Earth elements and natural products. 20 miles off their coast is crude oil and I believe MS has coal deposits as well as Emeralds(?). The Feds are not paying for the development and industrialization of this land. Taxes are not being levied appropriately in these areas. Many of the people relied on old companies long forgotten with infrastructure left to decay. Moreover, an entire ecosystem is fouled up due to lack of clean up of industrial waste in the Mississippi River. These actions were done before ANY OF US who are alive today! I think it occurred during "reconstruction" after the civil war. That is the thorn in A LOT of Southerner's sides. Basically, they got "gaffled" after this war.

If the monies were paid to Louisiana and Mississippi what was their "due" for economic development by the Feds, the projected number was estimated to be $20 trillion dollars with current rates on inflation. That is more than what each of these states have in their coffers combined! The Feds have NEVER paid for it. The Congress has been corrupted and I doubt the president cares because it is not Texas... For some reason Texas GETS its owed taxes to do business.

Poor people who gamble on casino boats will not put enough money into the system to make a dent... The funds these two states require to clean up--well, NOLA is getting Californian, Las Vegas, NV and Hawaiian support simply because of the "Hollywoodizing" of the "Big Easy" and the food...

And most folks do not revere Mississippi as a state that much because of the negative history associated with it. I think folks in Alabama and Georgia support them with tourists before houses were blown away by Hurricane Katrina... I think they still do.

But, when I lived in Atlanta and drove to visit NOLA, folks always said do not stop ANYWHERE in the state of Mississippi...

Given some craziness that I have just been informed of occurring in Jena, LA we ALL still have problems.

I think folks who are Mississippian should speak for themselves. However, it is my OPINION that between Louisiana and Mississippi, they are getting forgotten like they have been before.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by LaneSig

They will only help if the fed government provided enough adequate funds to finance the programs. They didn't here in Texas and I doubt they did in Mississippi.

That's the beauty of NCLB. It doesn't need much funding to work. It doesn't cost anything at all (extra) to force teachers and administrators to actually do right by the kids they educate. NCLB is the tough love the system needs.

Many schools in the OKC metro have been taking drastic measures to get off of the NCLB "bad" list. Do you think such schools would have taken the same steps sans-NCLB?