Clinton or Obama for President

[nonchalant]

[QUOTE=ladygreek;1489275]

Originally Posted by nonchalant

Don't believe the hype.

lol, thanks. If you would like to elaborate with a few examples, please feel free to do so. Anyone can elaborate for that matter.

[mccoyred]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

My opinion that Clinton and Obama would have a better chance of securing the White House if they were running mates notwithstanding, ....

I would vote for a Clinton/Obama ticket (I don't know if an Obama/Clinton ticket would ever happen!). Singly, however, I will be voting for Barack Obama. I think that his grassroots / all-american background is just what the country needs after 8 years of oil money running the country into the ground and taking the rest of the world with it.

[SoEnchanting]

Originally Posted by mccoyred

I would vote for a Clinton/Obama ticket (I don't know if an Obama/Clinton ticket would ever happen!). Singly, however, I will be voting for Barack Obama. I think that his grassroots / all-american background is just what the country needs after 8 years of oil money running the country into the ground and taking the rest of the world with it.

^^^^^ Couldn't have stated it better myself.

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by mccoyred

I would vote for a Clinton/Obama ticket (I don't know if an Obama/Clinton ticket would ever happen!). Singly, however, I will be voting for Barack Obama. I think that his grassroots / all-american background is just what the country needs after 8 years of oil money running the country into the ground and taking the rest of the world with it.

I would agree with you. But again my concern is does he know enough to surround himself with the right people to get his vision implemented? You know Jesse and Al are going to be pushing for Cabinet positions and will Barack be strong enough to say Hell no and then weather the flack that will come with it?

[KAPital PHINUst]

Far be it for me to tell any of you who you should vote for, let me give you a bit of advice when pondering your decision(s).

Please understand that the state of this country is in dire straits: escalating Middle East war, declining dollar, inflation/high gas prices, rising foreclosures, tremendous national debt financed by a nation (China) on the verge of cashing it out, homeland "security" about to resort to extreme measures to keep us "safe", talks of a North America Union, etc, etc.

This is not the time to select a candidate based on who gets the most airtime provided by Fox, CNN, or whatever news source you rely on. Do not let them inform you of who you "should" vote for. You must do your homework and research candidates thoroughly as to what matters most to you and which candidate's beliefs and agenda are most in line with yours.

DO NOT vote for a candidate based on who you think is most likely to win. That's not voting, that's tantamount to gambling. Do not throw your ballot on the crap table. Moreover, do not let these candidates insult your intelligence by pandering to you because you belong to a certain minority or special interest group. We need to vote with wisdom in this next election; it could possibly be the most critical one in US history for the future of our nation.

*steps down off soapbox*

Having said that, now for my personal opinion: If the election comes down to Hilbama vs. Rudy McRomney, it's game over; The United States of America is TOAST! The next decade is going to be RADICALLY different in ways we we would've never believed.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

I would agree with you. But again my concern is does he know enough to surround himself with the right people to get his vision implemented? You know Jesse and Al are going to be pushing for Cabinet positions and will Barack be strong enough to say Hell no and then weather the flack that will come with it?

From my experience in Illinois, he does not run with their crowd. I think he'll pick the best people he can for the job. He's shown repeatedly he doesn't play that game.

[Phrozen1ne]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

Far be it for me to tell any of you who you should vote for, let me give you a bit of advice when pondering your decision(s).

Please understand that the state of this country is in dire straits: escalating Middle East war, declining dollar, inflation/high gas prices, rising foreclosures, tremendous national debt financed by a nation (China) on the verge of cashing it out, homeland "security" about to resort to extreme measures to keep us "safe", talks of a North America Union, etc, etc.

This is not the time to select a candidate based on who gets the most airtime provided by Fox, CNN, or whatever news source you rely on. Do not let them inform you of who you "should" vote for. You must do your homework and research candidates thoroughly as to what matters most to you and which candidate's beliefs and agenda are most in line with yours.

DO NOT vote for a candidate based on who you think is most likely to win. That's not voting, that's tantamount to gambling. Do not throw your ballot on the crap table. Moreover, do not let these candidates insult your intelligence by pandering to you because you belong to a certain minority or special interest group. We need to vote with wisdom in this next election; it could possibly be the most critical one in US history for the future of our nation.

*steps down off soapbox*

Having said that, now for my personal opinion: If the election comes down to Hilbama vs. Rudy McRomney, it's game over; The United States of America is TOAST! The next decade is going to be RADICALLY different in ways we we would've never believed.

You know...I have been thoroughly researching each candidates and the jury is still out on this one. I guess it all comes down to proven track record and trust (even though candidates have been known to lie).

[Phrozen1ne]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

I would agree with you. But again my concern is does he know enough to surround himself with the right people to get his vision implemented? You know Jesse and Al are going to be pushing for Cabinet positions and will Barack be strong enough to say Hell no and then weather the flack that will come with it?

Jesse and Al!!! Lord help us all if that happens...

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

From my experience in Illinois, he does not run with their crowd. I think he'll pick the best people he can for the job. He's shown repeatedly he doesn't play that game.

I know he doesn't run with that crowd. But this is a whole different ball game than a state. I am talking about national pressure from certain groups.

[Jody]

The reason candidates try and raise alot of money early on is because they want to "scare" other potential candidates from running. The media profits from this mad dash for cash (where do you think the money goes?!) so they want the electorate to believe that whoever raises the most amount of money wins.

The title of this thread buys into this hype...since they've raised the most amount of money why would anyone presume that either one of them would be the Democratic nominee? (

Clinton is a socialist and Obama doesn't have any goverance experience (if had been the governor of Illinois, he'd be much more prepared, historically, how many Senators have been president?) Bill Richardson would be a more formidable presidential candidate because he's more qualfied.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

I know he doesn't run with that crowd. But this is a whole different ball game than a state. I am talking about national pressure from certain groups.

Oh yes, I understand. I just don't think he's getting himself beholden to anyone now that could come back and bite him later.

[blklikeme]

MR OBAMA AS PRESIDENT AND MISS CLINTON as VP
OH YES
I WOULD BUY THAT FOR A DOLLOR

[cheerfulgreek]

Clinton all the way!

[cheerfulgreek]

I just skimmed through some of the post so I don't know if this question came up, but is it true that Obama is a Muslim?

[ThetaDancer]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I just skimmed through some of the post so I don't know if this question came up, but is it true that Obama is a Muslim?

No.