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09-14-2007, 02:17 PM
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There are actually 870 PNMs signed up for sorority recruitment....
A few years ago there was a set of twins and both went DG. Then another set came through and one went Chi O and one went Tri Delta. There were triplets in Pi Phi when I was a freshman back in the day. There were twins in AOII when I was a freshman too. It's always fun to see where the twins end up!
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09-08-2007, 01:59 PM
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So far theres about 750 girls signed up for rush at Ole Miss (that was the last count but the deadline hasnt come yet so there will always be the procrastinators who wait til the last day to sign up). This year seems to be the year of the twins, I've never seen so many sets of twins going through rush in my life! I'm a sophomore Pi Phi and I know that last year there were about 900 of us but this year's freshman class is one of the biggest we've had at Ole Miss so I'm sure by rush time there will be more than that. Whoever said rush at Ole Miss is unlike anything else you'll ever witness was so right! I talk to my friends who pledged sororities at other schools that have maybe 80 girls in their entire sorority, that isnt as big as one of our pledge classes! We are excited though since this year our house renovations were completed and we dont have to do rush amidst construction. Our house looks unbelievable and I want rush to get here so we can show it off!
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Your new house is GORGEOUS!!! I know you are proud of it! Best of Luck to all the Ole Miss Houses--I know y'all are working very hard! I'm looking forward to hearing all about it!
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10-07-2007, 09:47 PM
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Delayed Rush
Does anyone agree that Ole Miss has really made things difficult by moving rush after school starts? I attended Ole Miss Homecoming this weekend, and the sororities and fraternities were EXHAUSTED between midterms, rush, and Homecoming! This is going to not only hurt rush but also the university's enrollment if they don't move the date for rush. I really think it needs to be MOVED BACK...before school starts. Thoughts/comments?
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10-07-2007, 10:09 PM
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Does anyone agree that Ole Miss has really made things difficult by moving rush after school starts? I attended Ole Miss Homecoming this weekend, and the sororities and fraternities were EXHAUSTED between midterms, rush, and Homecoming! This is going to not only hurt rush but also the university's enrollment if they don't move the date for rush. I really think it needs to be MOVED BACK...before school starts. Thoughts/comments?
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It doesn't seem to be hurting anything. In fact, if anything it helps some PNMs by letting them get to know people. Why would this hurt the enrollment of a major university???
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10-07-2007, 10:10 PM
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I never did like the delayed rush. I rushed when rush was before school and prefer that. If they don't want to hold rush before school anymore for whatever reasons they have, then I would prefer deferred rush. Holding rush in the middle of the semester, especially when midterms are going on, is almost cruel! They are punishing about 1/3 of their student population unduly.
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10-07-2007, 10:16 PM
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It was delayed when I rushed. I always viewed it as though there will always be things in my life that coincide with school/midterms. If being in a sorority was something I wanted to do, I knew I had to be adult enough to figure out how to better manage my available time.
I sure didn't make my college decisions based on recruitment dates.
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10-07-2007, 10:18 PM
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Exhaustion is just part of going to school, and it is part of going through life. Take a deep breath and let your daughter select her school based on her education needs rather than on when recruitment is scheduled.
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10-07-2007, 10:20 PM
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I wouldn't expect anyone to make their college enrollment decisions based on recruitment dates, but it does seem to me that having sorority recruitment while classes weren't also going on would be better. If you wanted to have deferred, it seems like it would be better moved until after finals in the fall semester. I was looking up the academic calendar and finals end on December 7th, I think; couldn't it be after that for a week?
ETA: I'm not saying that college kids shouldn't have to learn how to do social stuff and classes at the same time, just that SEC sorority rush is pretty exhausting, and it might be easier on everyone to do it on a school break.
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10-08-2007, 10:02 AM
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Does anyone agree that Ole Miss has really made things difficult by moving rush after school starts? I attended Ole Miss Homecoming this weekend, and the sororities and fraternities were EXHAUSTED between midterms, rush, and Homecoming! This is going to not only hurt rush but also the university's enrollment if they don't move the date for rush. I really think it needs to be MOVED BACK...before school starts. Thoughts/comments?
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I know that at Arkansas, they moved rush into September to increase/retain enrollment. They used to have it before school started, and if some PNMs didn't get the sorority they wanted, they actually transferred schools, costing the University enrollment. It happened often enough that the chancellor demanded that recruitment be moved after classes started.
I am NOT a fan of large recruitments after school starts, but I wanted to point out that there apparently is an argument that delaying recruitment actually helps enrollment.
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10-07-2007, 10:53 PM
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For most groups, you have to have enough time between pledging and the end of the semester to get them initiated. Doing that after finals would mean that the new member period wouldn't start for several weeks as well. And some groups require the new member education to begin within a week of pledging. And it is called "delayed" not "deferred" if it is held later in fall semester. Deferred is held in spring.
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10-07-2007, 11:35 PM
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For most groups, you have to have enough time between pledging and the end of the semester to get them initiated. Doing that after finals would mean that the new member period wouldn't start for several weeks as well. And some groups require the new member education to begin within a week of pledging. And it is called "delayed" not "deferred" if it is held later in fall semester. Deferred is held in spring.
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Good to know.
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10-08-2007, 12:09 AM
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Back to where the twins pledged. I know that DG has one set. I think they were from Maryland.
As far as rush, I can see both sides. I will say that if they moved rush back just a couple of weeks so that it is not DURING mid-terms it would be better. Because of the fear of "dirty rushing" there is not a whole lot of interaction between the girls in the GLO's prior to rush. It does give the houses the time to observe the girls, but the girls really do not have any idea who is in a GLO unless they are wearing T-shirts, etc. I know my daughter was shocked at all the girls she knew in GLO's when she went through two weeks ago.
My daughter was coming from out-of-state (actually out of the region) so it was nice that she had the extra time for the houses to get to know her. She had a great recruitment for someone who went to Ole Miss knowing NO ONE. She might have done better in a deferred rush, but who knows. She is thrilled to be in a house, getting to know people, having a wonderful time and getting decent food.
I want to thank all of you on GC for the input during the past several months. I will say that it was a very tense time, but well worth the effort. I was able to help my daughter, as well as others, really understand that a lot of rush is a numbers game. The houses/members may really like you, but there is only so much room. Which is amazing considering the size of the pledge classes. Thanks again for the help.
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10-08-2007, 10:07 AM
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My recruitment was the last year they held it before school started. Then in Fall of 1997 they moved it to like 6 weeks into the fall semester. I believe it was either that year or the year after that when rush was over two weekends, talk about exhausting! Rush dates are usually based on now when there is an away football game weekend that is about 4-6 weeks into the first semester. Last year it happened that Homecoming was the weekend before rush, so I can assure that active members were not that interested in decorating homecoming floats. But they endured and all of the sororities and fraternities had floats.
I am afraid that they are not going to move rush to the way it use to be or to later on in the semester or even January. The Administration had many reasons to move it, one was retention rates and another was when they secured the first Phi Beta Kappa chapter at a public university in the State of Mississippi. I helped write a proposal two years ago with other sorority advisors on campus about why it should be moved to before school starts. However, that did not help to persuade anyone at all.
So the point is, that Ole Miss rush will stay the way it is. I don't see the Administration moving it at this point. I think finally after ten years of having deferred recruitment, the Ole Miss Greeks are finally adapting.
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10-09-2007, 09:45 AM
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The Administration had many reasons to move it, one was retention rates and another was when they secured the first Phi Beta Kappa chapter at a public university in the State of Mississippi.
Wait.... I understand the retention rate issue but what does Phi Beta Kappa have to do with it?
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10-09-2007, 10:02 AM
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Wait.... I understand the retention rate issue but what does Phi Beta Kappa have to do with it?
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My guess is that the steering committee at the time Ole Miss was trying to charter a chapter didn't want PBK's national officers to see something that might be construed as frivolous and an indication that the school didn't take academics seriously.
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