Mom, 20, giving birth to third set of twins

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by susan314

This story repulses me on so many levels.

You know...this latest set of twins is being delivered via c-section...it would be reallllllly easy for the doctor to do a tubal ligation at the same time. (hint, hint)

I'm sorry that is disgusting. That is Incredibly disgusting.

[f8nacn]

Wow...don't know what else to say on this one.

[Drolefille]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6670217.stm

"When I was 13, I was raped. I had my beautiful son and when they cut me open, I had a caesarean, they sterilised me at the same time," she said.

"I didn't know anything about it until I was 19. I got married and tried to have a child. The doctor told me I had been butchered."

It sounds like a story from the dark ages but this happened less than 40 years ago. And it happened in the US.

Policies were drawn up in over 30 states in the US to sterilise women, men and children who were considered to be physically, mentally or morally 'defective'.

But in reality the majority of those who were sterilised were simply poor women.

[susan314]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I'm sorry that is disgusting. That is Incredibly disgusting.

Note - in case I wasn't clear the first time, I didn't mean that the doctor should do a tubal without her consent. (given that it would be illegal and unethical for a physician to do)

I've had 2 c-sections, and its easy for the doctor to do while he's in there with minimal additional expense (since he's already in the general area anyhow) - hopefully her doctor encouraged her to consider that option. (I know that my doctor told me during my 2nd pregnancy that if I was ever planning to have a tubal, it would be easy for him to do during my scheduled c-section.)

[mulattogyrl]

Originally Posted by susan314

I've had 2 c-sections, and its easy for the doctor to do while he's in there with minimal additional expense (since he's already in the general area anyhow) - hopefully her doctor encouraged her to consider that option. (I know that my doctor told me during my 2nd pregnancy that if I was ever planning to have a tubal, it would be easy for him to do during my scheduled c-section.)

Actually, I've heard this too. Someone I know got hers done that way.

[OneTimeSBX]

Originally Posted by susan314

Note - in case I wasn't clear the first time, I didn't mean that the doctor should do a tubal without her consent. (given that it would be illegal and unethical for a physician to do)

yeah it would be, although there are plenty of women who need to STOP GETTING PREGNANT! it is truly harder to get pregnant than to prevent it! i have a cousin (distant) who has had 8 children by 8 men while she was a cracked out prostitute. if ANYONE needs to stop having kids, she is on that list! and the worst part? she hasnt raised a single one. everytime she has the child and the doctors realize she used crack while pregnant, they lock her up and take the baby. 3 are in foster care, one died (SIDS), and 4 were adopted. she gets out in enough time to find some crack and start all over. oh, did i mention she's only 33?

if u like kids, have them. if you cant take care of them, dont.

[sbx_six_eye]

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX

ok, after the first set of twins there should have been some tubes being tied. especially at that young age. the second set? girl, ya got miracle-gro in your veins...use everything on the market for protection!

keep in mind people, that there was one other child at the very beginning...so this actually totals 7 kids. im not judging her, but my goodness, if you are struggling now, what do you think an extra 2 kids is going to do? she will be in outright poverty! this is unfair to everyone involved...she has lost her childhood, the kids no longer have a woman 100% dedicated to mothering at her utmost potential, the father of the "latest set" has to deal with a truckload of baby daddies...what was she thinking??

She wasn't thinking...it's sad...

[susan314]

Originally Posted by mulattogyrl

Actually, I've heard this too. Someone I know got hers done that way.

In retrospect, I really wish I would have had it done at the time my son was born. We were about 98% sure we didn't want to have any more children...the other 2% was just me thinking "well, what if I only think I don't want more kids b/c I'm just sick of being pregnant right now?"

If I'd had it done at the time of my last c-section, it would have been a medically simple procedure that might have added an extra $200 or so to our total bill. Now, either my husband or I will have to go through a surgical procedure (as opposed to having it done in the middle of a surgery I was already having anyhow), and we'll have to fork over a couple grand for it.

One of my best friends had it done during a c-section last fall. (She already had 2 daughters and then had a son in August - she definitely knew she didn't want any more kids. Probably would have stopped at 2, but they really wanted to try for a boy. lol)

Anyhow, drolefille, that's more what I was getting at with the initial comment - this girl probably shouldn't be having any more kids. (Each birth becomes more of a medical risk for her, not to mention that she has 1 in 5 odds of a future pregnancy being twins again according to the article I read.) The medical risks for her and also the expense would be lower if the doctor did it during the c-section. The hint, hint comment was referencing that since the state is already paying for her 7 kids, maybe she should get the hint that its not fair to add more kids to the state's financial burden. Not a hint, hint to the doctor to do it whether or not she consents.

[1908Revelations]

One word......


Horrible!

[FSUZeta]

we had an employee who was a baby daddy 7 times over-to 7 different women. when i cut his paycheck, i had to also cut 7 child support checks and send them to various nearby county agencies for distribution to the appropriate mothers. he made next to squat because he was an unskilled laborer, and then the mothers got next to squat because they only had a share of the paycheck. he did not last long however, because when he was supposed to be delivering some material to a job, he was busy delivering something else to potential baby mama #8.

[CutiePie2000]

Originally Posted by susan314

Note - in case I wasn't clear the first time, I didn't mean that the doctor should do a tubal without her consent. (given that it would be illegal and unethical for a physician to do)

yes, that would SRSLY be straight out of the Handmaid's Tale or Brave New World.....

[AlexMack]

Soon she'll be competition for Michelle Duggar...*shudder*

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by susan314

Note - in case I wasn't clear the first time, I didn't mean that the doctor should do a tubal without her consent. (given that it would be illegal and unethical for a physician to do)

I've had 2 c-sections, and its easy for the doctor to do while he's in there with minimal additional expense (since he's already in the general area anyhow) - hopefully her doctor encouraged her to consider that option. (I know that my doctor told me during my 2nd pregnancy that if I was ever planning to have a tubal, it would be easy for him to do during my scheduled c-section.)

Thanks for the clarification. Too many people suggest things like that seriously. I agree that she shouldn't be having children without the ability to pay for them, but the article doesn't give the full story. The assumption that "dad" isn't working because the state takes care of him is pretty groundless without more information.

I've actually heard that getting a tubal post C-Section is less effective than as a seperate procedure. Something about your body being more likely to heal itself post-partum or something like that.

Originally Posted by CutiePie2000

yes, that would SRSLY be straight out of the Handmaid's Tale or Brave New World.....

Yeah tell me about it. Unfortunately it's happened. If you want a tubal when on medicaid you have to submit a written request at least 3 months in advance. (At least in some states) This is to prevent doctors from taking the opportunity and running with it.

[Educatingblue]

I think some girls/women think it is cute to get pregnant and have babies. If you are responsible you can avoid unwanted pregnancies. What kind of mother would want their child to live in poverty and have a good possibility of staying in poverty.

I'm sorry, but I really cringe when I hear people say they have an unplanned pregancy. You obviously planned something...

[darling1]

i think most insurance companies will pay for a vesectomy but not the reversal.

but to respond to the original thread, i find it disgusting that this woman and others like her are popping out children like its ok.

her ob should have 'made' her get the tubal ligation.

Originally Posted by susan314

If I'd had it done at the time of my last c-section, it would have been a medically simple procedure that might have added an extra $200 or so to our total bill. Now, either my husband or I will have to go through a surgical procedure (as opposed to having it done in the middle of a surgery I was already having anyhow), and we'll have to fork over a couple grand for it.