When to do rush

[lauralaylin]

OmegaPDPrez, I just want you to know that as a very active alum, I've worked with a great many chapters at a great many schools. And I've seen many chapters from other organizations than my own. And I must say that I think sisterhood is universal. Sure, there may be a chapter here and there that need some work with it, but I really feel they are few and far between. And I do not believe that locals or NPCs are better or worse with their sisterhood. There are definitely differences between the two, but all are real sororities. I do not know what campus you are from, so I cannot speak of them. But across North America, I believe you'd find that NPCs do have strong sisterhood like locals, and generalizations based on your campus experience alone may be incorrect.

MaryAmanda, good luck with your pursuit. I am a charter member of my group (joined after we chose an NPC), and a huge amount of alums from our local came back to be initiated as AIs. It was great to meet them and see how much they still cared about us. Many are still active in their alum groups too.

[OmegaPDPrez]

I'd really like someone to explian why my posts are so uneducated-PM on this-
IF i must go into more details for you all, I will.

I never said all NPC sororities were bad, and I did not make any generalized negative comment about them.

I did, however, make a statement about why women may want to join a local, based on Greek life activity here at my school. HERE AT MY SCHOOL!! GEt It???

And to tell me that I dont know what the groups are *supposed* to do, is not exactly true.

Each year, our IFSC gets together and all the groups make decisions on a number of things, and sometimes things fall through, but it happens to much. It has gotten to a point that it seems our Greek life here isn't really about accomplishing much anymore.

So now you know how I know.

I still won't go into much detail simply because this isnt the thread for it.

To bring back the topic, I will say this, My sorority is a social and service group our rush takes place after PanHell recruitment both fall and spring semesters, and it is very successful.

[33girl]

OmegaPDPrez, you took a post made by my sister and completely misinterpreted it and responded in a way that's insulting to a lot of people on here.

What AF was saying was that for locals, perhaps rushing after the national groups rushed wasn't a good idea, because instead of getting women who truly wanted your group, you would run the risk of getting women who attempted to join a national sorority and weren't successful, so they figured "I guess local is better than nothing" and treated their sisters and membership accordingly. SHE DID NOT SAY SHE HAD THAT OPINION OF LOCALS HERSELF.

It's no one's right to judge the quality of another group's "sisterhood" just because they're different than your own group. We've had a zillion discussions on here where people completely dissed locals and said they were "fake sororities" and a good number of posters smacked them down for this very wrong opinion. However, reverse prejudice is no way to go. That is where the "uneducated" comment came in.

[OmegaPDPrez]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

I don't understand why a local would think that getting NPC leftovers was a benefit. I would hate to think of my sorority as a "backup" or "second" option if I didn't get into a "real" sorority. (Note: I'm not one that thinks that locals aren't "real" sororities - but this kind of thing perpetuates that kind of thinking).

I read this and was a little insulted by the way it was written. My response and intention was to make a point that doing recruitment after NPC does not necessarily mean that local groups get members that view locals as a last alternative.
I feel that its unfair to make that type of assumption. My response included ideas based on NPC groups that I know of personally. And I dont mean to insult people who are of NPC membership but I am trying to make a point that for anyone to make a comment like this is un called for. We all have different reasons for wanting to be a part of Greek life.
And no type of group should be subjected as 'the reject group' My response in no way is uneducated based on the fact you all do not know how all groups are organized and operated. AND my response can very well be related to any local group that fits the description. But for now, I will apologize if any one feels like i personally insulted their organization. I did not mean to but my personal opinion still stands.

[AlphaFrog]

OmegaPDPrez - I was not making the assumption that the only girls who rush locals are the ones that couldn't get into an NPC. I was simply responding to what MaryAmanda said, which I quoted. She had said that rushing after the NPCs, they could pick up the girls that had gotten cut, and that was a benefit. Like I said before, I don't see locals as a "fake" sorority or "only an option if you don't make it into an NPC". There are plenty of valid reasons for joining a local as opposed to an NPC.

[OmegaPDPrez]

Hey, that was nice, what you wrote. For a minute I thought you were mean, and i'm sorry about that. But I do appreciate the comment.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by OmegaPDPrez

Hey, that was nice, what you wrote. For a minute I thought you were mean, and i'm sorry about that. But I do appreciate the comment.

Oh, don't worry, I am mean.

[KSUViolet06]

If you can, I would suggest participating in Panhellenic recruitment. I think it's the best way to avoid being seen as the "fake sorority" or "the sorority for girls who don't get bids during formal rush." Even if you don't get as many women as the Panhellenic sororities do, you will have the experience of participating in it and knowing how it works.

[OmegaPDPrez]

i actually dont do any type of formal or informal recruitment. right now two of my friends are 'pledging, rather learning, about my sorority and next fall i think i will do something close to a formal? recruitment ( not sure the difference between formal and informal; like i know what makes them different but i dont think the names fit them well but, thats a whole nother topic) anyway.
next semester i will have a rush period, and then i will introduce new members to the organization through our education period which will produce, hopefully, new sisters into the group. but the difference is i will not advertise as panhell does- which is really creative this year was really cute- simply because 1. my school probably wouldnt like for me too ( thats all in another thread) and 2. because i dont want it to become that group where people 'sludge' to just to 'get letters' cause i do believe that sometimes that could be the case ( see alpha, i totally get your point!) 3. i cant advertise to 2000 women and not expect to get alot of attention as anew group
i think what im trying to say is my recruitment will sortof be underground. My goal isnt to recruit alot of women since we're small and the idea is to keep it not in the spolight so to speak ( i think im making this complicated, which im talented at doing) but anyway, i like the idea of just going to a few interested women on campus and asking them to join us for an interest meeting and then pretty much going from there. which is also one of the reasons why i rather recruit after NPC so then who ever wants to really get to know NPC groups has that chance and if they dont find what they like they can conctrate completely on my group.

Something like that! I hope i didnt confuse us all

[SigmaPezY60]

If there are a lot of locals on your campus, do you have a council for them? You could organize a formal recruitment for the locals on your campus similar to the NPC recruitment process.

My chapter is one of the 3 largest sororities on campus, along with the 2 NPC sororities. NJIT doesn't have a traditional formal rush process and all GLO's have recruitment at the same time. We all take around the same number of new members each semester.

I do agree that you should try to recruit along with the Panhellenic. It's only difficult to compete if you allow it to be difficult. If you don't get as many new members you can always do COB the week after.

[MaryAmanda]

Our Collegiate Panhellenic only allows one local sorority on GT's campus at any given time. We have filled that spot since 2001. It is also by their decree that the Associate Members (ADChi, AOE, and LTA) and Local (us) have a designated week in which we are allowed to rush, always one or two weeks after NPC recruitment.

Only the 6 NPCs represented on our campus have a vote at council meetings, so we're ultimately just subject to their will. Recently, the presidents of ADChi, AOE, and Coyote wrote a bill to give limited voting rights to Associates and Locals, but the motion failed when brought to a vote last week.

[kddani]

Originally Posted by OmegaPDPrez

i actually dont do any type of formal or informal recruitment. right now two of my friends are 'pledging, rather learning, about my sorority and next fall i think i will do something close to a formal? recruitment ( not sure the difference between formal and informal; like i know what makes them different but i dont think the names fit them well but, thats a whole nother topic) anyway.
next semester i will have a rush period, and then i will introduce new members to the organization through our education period which will produce, hopefully, new sisters into the group. but the difference is i will not advertise as panhell does- which is really creative this year was really cute- simply because 1. my school probably wouldnt like for me too ( thats all in another thread) and 2. because i dont want it to become that group where people 'sludge' to just to 'get letters' cause i do believe that sometimes that could be the case ( see alpha, i totally get your point!) 3. i cant advertise to 2000 women and not expect to get alot of attention as anew group
i think what im trying to say is my recruitment will sortof be underground. My goal isnt to recruit alot of women since we're small and the idea is to keep it not in the spolight so to speak ( i think im making this complicated, which im talented at doing) but anyway, i like the idea of just going to a few interested women on campus and asking them to join us for an interest meeting and then pretty much going from there. which is also one of the reasons why i rather recruit after NPC so then who ever wants to really get to know NPC groups has that chance and if they dont find what they like they can conctrate completely on my group.

Something like that! I hope i didnt confuse us all

I'm rather confused... are you part of a sorority, or is this your own personal fanclub or something? All of this "I" and "my". What happened to all of this based on "sisterhood" stuff you've been talking about? How is it a sisterhood to say all of this as your own personal decisions, and not that of a group?

[mystikchick]

Originally Posted by kddani

I'm rather confused... are you part of a sorority, or is this your own personal fanclub or something? All of this "I" and "my". What happened to all of this based on "sisterhood" stuff you've been talking about? How is it a sisterhood to say all of this as your own personal decisions, and not that of a group?

i'm not sure about this, and OmegaPDPrez, please feel free to correct me, but it appears there are only two members based on the website for this sorority - the poster and her sister, presumably the vice-president.

Also OmegaPDPrez, I'm curious - I checked out your myspace profile, and it lists you as having started seven years ago in Canada and then suddenly again in PA? What does that mean/could you explain?

[OmegaPDPrez]

should i make a thread?
First,
There are four members,
two of which founded the organization
and we are preparing to do a bigger recruitment in the fall with six members (counting my two friends that are in the education process right now)
Second,
The i thing is kind of selfish, i get what your saying, its not my personal fan club, but thats how i typed it...sorry
Third,
The canadain school is a very long story... but the letters were thought to have belonged to another group... and they released them ( really long story) which made it possible for us to use them but since they were a group we thought it would be nice to recognize that they once existed.

and yes, we were allowed to do that.

[kddani]

Thanks for taking the time to explain, Omega.

I'm curious- what kind of educational process do you have? The group just started, there's only 2 members and now 2 people going through the "educational process". How much education can there possibly be, considering that you and the other member are founders and you have only been around for a very short period of time? Why are you spending the time doing that, instead of getting them involved in actually doing things and getting the group going? Rome wasn't built in a day, and no sorority was either. Having more man power, more leadership, more people to divy up the work with makes it more effective.