Beta back at USC and Miami (FL)

[Coramoor]

Man...all I'll say is that it will work itself out.

Even if it's only a few of you that like to party and have fun, you will be the ones that run the chapter because you will be more well known in sororities and other frats. The new guys will look up to you b/c you will be the guys that introduces them to girls, go out with them to parties, and generally have a good time.

Pledging will get harder over the course of a few semesters, once some of this MOP brainwashing has had a chance to leak away.

It will all be good. Just make sure that you have a hand in recruitment!

[EE-BO]

Originally Posted by rastaone

the problem is that when the beta expansion team was recruiting here, they stressed that they were looking for "fraternity men" and not "frat boys." the difference being that "fraternity men" followed the vision/goals/etc of MOP, which made them DIFFERENT from every other frat.

This is the part I don't understand.

I drank like crazy at times in college- especially when I lived in the house. And we tore things up and stole stuff from other fraternities and ripped buses to shreds on road trips etc.

But I also spent many hours working on philanthropy events, finished a pretty tough undergrad degree and went right through to the MBA program with no work experience, played designated driver in the house a lot, held office every semester (Pledge Class President and then various chapter offices after) and today I enjoy an active role in an advisory capacity which has been more fun and rewarding than I could ever imagine.

So under MPI as it is envisioned by some, does all of that go away because I liked to party balls a time or two a week when I was an active?

This is what concerns me and makes me wary of how MPI has been implemented. The concept itself is very sound and a smart idea both internally and externally, but it certainly has taken some ugly turns.

[EE-BO]

Originally Posted by rastaone

oh and i have tried to include the socially awkward guys in our events or even small things at our apartments. the thing is, they tend to look down on alcohol and actually talk shit about make sarcastic remarks about us when we drink. they actually feel that alcohol is a BAD thing, which i dont understand at all

Why do they think it is bad? Because they have true convictions about it or because they have social hangups? I suspect the latter based on what you are saying.

Man, you might want to take this to an Eye. I hate beating around the bush- serves no purpose- and my suggestion would be you bring this up and just let the chapter have it out and let everyone make their views clear, and why they feel that way.

Best part is that anyone who does not have a legitimate viewpoint they can defend will be pushed into a more passive state if you approach them head-on. And that will mean you have less trouble in future in your efforts to help build the chapter.