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View Poll Results: If Sex Ed is to truly be taught, what is needed? (you can select more than one)
Condom demonstrations, pictures of infected body parts from various STDs 15 55.56%
Speakers who have personal experience with STDs and teenage pregnancy 19 70.37%
D. West (from Maury Povich show) 2 7.41%
Other 7 25.93%
All of the above 5 18.52%
None of the above 1 3.70%
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Old 10-20-2006, 03:35 PM
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You can vote for multiple options.
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Old 10-20-2006, 03:52 PM
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Old 10-20-2006, 03:57 PM
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Yeah but i can't go back in time! I voted for other
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Old 10-20-2006, 04:52 PM
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Kindergarden is way too young. you need to start at grade 7. that's the most effective way of getting the message through to the kids.
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Old 10-20-2006, 05:00 PM
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Kindergarden is way too young. you need to start at grade 7. that's the most effective way of getting the message through to the kids.
Yeah but they're not talking about just sex, it's basically a health class
K-3 is viruses and prevention of abuse
4-6 learns about puberty stuff
7 up learns about sex.
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Old 10-20-2006, 05:01 PM
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I checked all of the above including other. Children need to be educated on ALL forms of sexual activity.
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Old 10-20-2006, 05:10 PM
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Kindergarden is way too young. you need to start at grade 7. that's the most effective way of getting the message through to the kids.
At Warrensville, we had sex education in 6th grade in Interpersonal Skills class. Our parents had to attend the curriculum meeting prior to the first class and sign off on what we would be learning. That was in 1987 before AIDS really registered with me, in the age of MY innocence. Then in 12th grade I took an elective, Family Living that did demonstrate how to put on a condom as well as showed us graphic images of various STDs on body parts. Not just don't have sex, you will get herpes but this is what herpes looks like on the penis or vagina.

If I was a parent now, I would start talking to my child about their bodies and no one being allowed to touch them around the age of 4 or 5 on a level they can handle.

Cleveland Public Schools is a huge district and I believe that is very much needed in a lot of our school districts today. A lot of kids only hear "Don't come home pregnant" as a form of sex ed. My mom talked to me and told me a lot even when I wasn't trying to hear it.

Kids are having sex before the 7th grade. Kids give blow jobs these days like most people give hugs.

A key component of any sex ed is respect of yourself, your body, and boundaries as well as self esteem. Too many people have their self esteem wrapped up in the size of their reproductive organs.
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Old 10-20-2006, 06:46 PM
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Now just because I do not want my child sexually educated by a public school doesn't mean that WE (him/her and myself) won't be having these types of conversation. I just prefer to be the one to make that choice.

In general I don't think its a bad program...I just know that I would want the option of to participate or not (which it has). Especially if I felt that some of the material was not age appropriate (or maturity-level appropriate).
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Old 10-20-2006, 10:27 PM
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I think this a BRILLIANT idea!!! ESPECIALLY that the program is age-appropriate. I really like the kindergarten/elementary aspect of the program. Little ones need to know good/bad touch. It is so important. It's so sad when you hear about "Uncle" Johnny or a family friend, etc....

When I was in middle school in the late 80's/early 90's we went to the McMillan Health Center and learned all about sex ed/ body development, etc. And this was going to Catholic school. I must admit that I understand a parent's desire to opt their child out of the lectures though. Some may see it as misguided, but I think if you feel you can do a better job, go for it!! Also it shows that your an active participant in your kid's life.

As someone who works in science/health care arena, I also think that it's imperative that children know the proper names for their body parts. Just like we teach them arm and leg we need to teach them penis and vagina. These are not dirty words. I think the real problem is that even though our society is so sexualized it's also very much puritan.

I don't know, it's just one of my pet peeves when an 8-yr old still says wee-wee or pee-pee instead of penis. People say that kids pick up all kinds of stuff from the playground but I'd rather tell my kids what's up than get it from someother kid in the schoolyard.... There is nothing wrong with empowering your child with knowledge.
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Old 10-21-2006, 06:11 AM
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If I was a parent now, I would start talking to my child about their bodies and no one being allowed to touch them around the age of 4 or 5 on a level they can handle.
I totally agree.... I have a 4 year old and I talk to her about people touching her ANYWHERE - even her family, friends or classmates.

At this point in time we cannont AFFORD not to have conversations earlier than we could imagine our parents having with us - kids today don't grow up like i did - we just are that way anymore.............
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Old 10-23-2006, 08:13 AM
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I agree with at least having this program on a trial basis. I hear parents all the time saying they don't want their young children taking sex education classes in school, BUT, I think people need to realize that times are different now. When I was in grade school, many, many years ago, we didn't have teenage pregnancy issues. I remember one girl getting pregnant when I was in Junior High, and everyone was shocked. She was literally the ONLY girl pregnant in the school at that time. Now, seeing a pregnant child in school is not as shocking as it was back then, because it is unfortunately, becoming too common.

The hurtful truth is, kids are starting to have sex VERY early. I have seen girls as young as 12 years old, who are pregnant. I have heard of girls and boys, as young as 8-9 years old having sex. I applaude Cleveland for stepping up and implementing this program. I'm not saying that because I am from, and currently reside in Cleveland. I'm saying that because I think our communities need to step up and take more responsibility for what is happening to our children. We can't keep turning our heads, hoping our children won't be exposed to it.
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Old 10-24-2006, 06:01 PM
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I would review the syllabus and only have my child attend certain classes. They would not be attending a class to teach them respect for anyone's sexual proclivities or habits. That should not be a specified aspect of leducation. Children should be taught to show respect to people as a general principle.

As usual America is backwards when it comes to sociology and morality. Instead of respecting children enough to slow down the culture, we are rushing them to catch them up to it.

At one time, it was great to be a child and it wasn't that long ago.
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Old 10-25-2006, 11:10 AM
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They would not be attending a class to teach them respect for anyone's sexual proclivities or habits.
Perro Loco, Which portion of the syllabus are you refering to? I'm not sure if you are speaking about sexual orientation or general health awareness.

All, I think its a great idea. I agree that a lot of kids aren't getting anything at home, and its good that this will prevent them from slipping through the cracks. The info seems extremely age appropriate, so I say go for it. I voted for testimonials w.individuals living w/STDs or teenage pregnancy. The only reason I didn't include the item regarding pics of infected body parts, is that I don't want kids to think that a person can't be infected if they don't have visible signs.
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