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Old 10-02-2006, 08:39 PM
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Right, but my point was that it doesn't matter what President he worked/works for. I held a position at the White House while Clinton was in office and it has DEFINITELY opened doors for me. People are intrigued by it. I think the guy was smart to apply to Harvard Business School. He probably had a recommendation letter from the President, which is kickass. I'd definitely use that to my advantage for the rest of my life if I were in the same boat.

did you have an UG degree at the time?
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Old 10-02-2006, 09:18 PM
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It's not a matter of opening doors. Or at least it shouldn't be.

It's a matter of standards.

Or a lapse of them.
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Old 10-02-2006, 10:56 PM
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Yeah, I'm sure you don't learn anything being PA to the President...give me a break.
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Old 10-02-2006, 10:57 PM
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Right, but my point was that it doesn't matter what President he worked/works for. I held a position at the White House while Clinton was in office and it has DEFINITELY opened doors for me. People are intrigued by it. I think the guy was smart to apply to Harvard Business School. He probably had a recommendation letter from the President, which is kickass. I'd definitely use that to my advantage for the rest of my life if I were in the same boat.
He better have had an awesome recommendation letter from the President to get into a graduate program at Harvard WITHOUT a bachelor's degree...hell he went to college for one year!

I could careless who the President was, I don't think its right that one of his "lap dogs" (and couldn't he have had a higher position than just a sandwich maker/dog babysitter?) Got into --what i'm assuming is a prestigious business school-- without really much educational knowledge in the field.

Who knows...the man could be dumb as rocks, and still got into Harvard because of W.

<-----Doesn't like W either, and i'm from Texas.
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Old 10-02-2006, 11:01 PM
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Old 10-02-2006, 11:29 PM
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Yeah, I'm sure you don't learn anything being PA to the President...give me a break.
Is there a clause in Harvard's business school entry policies that state that a bachelor's is not required if 1) said person acquires a certain type and amount of experience and 2) this certain type and amount of experience must be with a prestigous and/or reputable employer?

Is there even anything that says "business school requirements are on a case-by-case basis?"

I know about loosening requirements based on the application pool or other extenuating factors. But waving off the bachelor's degree is too much. Tell him to get a degree from SOMEWHERE and then come back and use his President-helper-thingie to get into Harvard.
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Old 10-03-2006, 01:55 AM
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Yeah, I'm sure you don't learn anything being PA to the President...give me a break.
No. Give me a break.

Of course you can learn a lot using on the job training, but there are still some standards that should be met.

In my personal case, I dropped out of college with 14.5 quarter hours remaining to take a TV director job.

After over 15 years of experience directing everything from local news to national network sports, I went back and finished my degree through what was at that time called "experiential learning," which offered credit for life experience -- providing that experience was roughly equivilent to what the courses in the university program taught.

It took a year and a lot of writing to complete. One of my advisors in this program had spent a year with me as a National Association of Television Program Executives faculty intern working under me. I was teaching college level production courses at the time.

But I still had to go through the formal process.

I suspect this person is outsanding, but it is beyond my comprehension that someone with no bachelors degree could be admitted for any kind of advanced/terminal degree at an institution with the reputation of Harvard.

That is pure politics.
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Old 10-03-2006, 08:40 AM
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Old 10-03-2006, 08:59 AM
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Is there a clause in Harvard's business school entry policies that state that a bachelor's is not required if 1) said person acquires a certain type and amount of experience and 2) this certain type and amount of experience must be with a prestigous and/or reputable employer?
Yes. The clause is that Harvard's Business School is a private entity, and can do its thing however it wants to....regardless of what the rest of us think. Which is why I don't really have an opinion either way. I can see both sides, but what it comes down to, is not what you or I say, but what the Harvard people say.
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Old 10-03-2006, 09:30 AM
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Getting in is one thing, making it through is something completely different.
Yes ma'am, I thought the same thing. Who's to say this kid can even pass his classes or not drop out in a year.
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Old 10-03-2006, 10:16 AM
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No. Give me a break.

Of course you can learn a lot using on the job training, but there are still some standards that should be met.

In my personal case, I dropped out of college with 14.5 quarter hours remaining to take a TV director job.

After over 15 years of experience directing everything from local news to national network sports, I went back and finished my degree through what was at that time called "experiential learning," which offered credit for life experience -- providing that experience was roughly equivilent to what the courses in the university program taught.

It took a year and a lot of writing to complete. One of my advisors in this program had spent a year with me as a National Association of Television Program Executives faculty intern working under me. I was teaching college level production courses at the time.

But I still had to go through the formal process.

I suspect this person is outsanding, but it is beyond my comprehension that someone with no bachelors degree could be admitted for any kind of advanced/terminal degree at an institution with the reputation of Harvard.

That is pure politics.
You have an interesting story.
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Old 10-03-2006, 10:17 AM
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This is old news and was discussed ad nauseum months ago on college-related boards.

http://www.hbs.edu/mba/admissions/ad...ncriteria.html

The link above discusses admission criteria for Harvard. Even if the applicant does not have a BA/BS, the GMAT scores must be submitted. With an average score of 707, I'm sure that this particular applicant must have a truly stellar score to outweigh his lack of undergraduate education.

Personally, I'm much more confortable with the admission of this young man to Harvard as compared to the Yale acceptance of the ex-Taliban member.
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Old 10-03-2006, 10:19 AM
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Yes. The clause is that Harvard's Business School is a private entity, and can do its thing however it wants to....regardless of what the rest of us think. Which is why I don't really have an opinion either way. I can see both sides, but what it comes down to, is not what you or I say, but what the Harvard people say.
DUH.

But back to my question.
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Old 10-03-2006, 10:22 AM
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Even if the applicant does not have a BA/BS, the MCAS scores must be submitted. With an average score of 707, I'm sure that this particular applicant must have a truly stellar score to outweigh his lack of undergraduate education.
This is what I was looking for. I "wonder" what his score was.
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Old 10-03-2006, 12:23 PM
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This is old news and was discussed ad nauseum months ago on college-related boards.

http://www.hbs.edu/mba/admissions/ad...ncriteria.html

The link above discusses admission criteria for Harvard. Even if the applicant does not have a BA/BS, the MCAS scores must be submitted. With an average score of 707, I'm sure that this particular applicant must have a truly stellar score to outweigh his lack of undergraduate education.

Personally, I'm much more confortable with the admission of this young man to Harvard as compared to the Yale acceptance of the ex-Taliban member.
apparently academic performance wasn't as scrutinized as other students.
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