You should know I will continue to post these threads until they aren't deleted: 4th

[Buttonz]

Originally Posted by ariesrising

I think it sucks that some GCers think this issue is going away at the mere click of the delete button.

Agree, if anything, it's just making things so mcuh worse!

[James]

What is everyone trying to reach consensus on?

Originally Posted by greekalum

As I've said before, deleting these posts won't make them go away. Letting the discussion carry on and reach a consensus? Will allow people to move on.

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by James

What is everyone trying to reach consensus on?

Second. I'm really confused ... I think I have some kind of knack for always missing that one critical post that makes subsequent GC drama make sense.

[Kevin]

I think she wants us to agree with her that it's okay for her to post her opinions.

Or is it something else?

[James]

Ok. In that case its absolutely ok for her to post her opinion. Maybe not post extremely unflattering characterizations of others . .. but certainly her opinion of issues and situations

Originally Posted by Kevin

I think she wants us to agree with her that it's okay for her to post her opinions.

Or is it something else?

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by James

Ok. In that case its absolutely ok for her to post her opinion. Maybe not post extremely unflattering characterizations of others . .. but certainly her opinion of issues and situations

I don't see anything wrong with that. Minus the unflattering characterizations, verbal abuse of others, etc.

Tippie, we support you.

[epchick]

Well there obviously aren't people who support her, because her threads continue to get deleted, when there isn't anything wrong!

Its so dumb that *some* people get butt-hurt so easily and then go crying to anyone and everyone that they are being harrassed.

[Rudey]

Originally Posted by epchick

Well there obviously aren't people who support her, because her threads continue to get deleted, when there isn't anything wrong!

Its so dumb that *some* people get butt-hurt so easily and then go crying to anyone and everyone that they are being harrassed.

kddani started it all by incorrectly using the word "Harassment" against Bobby and I.

We, the people, look forward to the return to normalcy - the golden age of Greekchat - where people do not use such accusations against others.

-Rudey

[epchick]

Originally Posted by Rudey

kddani started it all by incorrectly using the word "Harassment" against Bobby and I.

We, the people, look forward to the return to normalcy - the golden age of Greekchat - where people do not use such accusations against others.

-Rudey

That might be so....but I wasn't talking about Kddani. I am talking about someone else.

<---I'm on Tippie's side.

[Rudey]

Originally Posted by epchick

That might be so....but I wasn't talking about Kddani. I am talking about someone else.

<---I'm on Tippie's side.

Oh...well I wish all sides eternal happiness my child.

-Rudey

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by epchick

Well there obviously aren't people who support her, because her threads continue to get deleted, when there isn't anything wrong!

Its so dumb that *some* people get butt-hurt so easily and then go crying to anyone and everyone that they are being harrassed.

Sometimes there is legitimate harassment. Then, they are justified in bringing it up.

If a member thinks they are being harassed, I would recommend they contact the administrator, John for final resolution of the matter. There's no conspiracy to keep Tippiechick quiet (or if there is, I was left out of the loop). She actually makes good points and gives good advice most of the time.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Sometimes there is legitimate harassment. Then, they are justified in bringing it up.

I totally agree!! When there is someone being legitimately harassed, then by all means...i'll tell John for them.

And then there are the people that "cry wolf." <---Those are the people I'm referring to. The ones that you say "go suck an egg" or something equally as clever (lol ) and they'll cry foul to John. I'm sorry its not right...its not.

When you have a different viewpoint, its obviously going to get others riled up...that is why its different/opposing. But We are all adults, and we all need to learn to just suck it up. That is why I agree with Tippie. I dont understand why her posts continued to get deleted when there wasn't anything wrong with them.

[DeltAlum]

Tippiechick,

Have you PM'd John on this?

If he has given some sort of tacit approval to this deleting, you're wasting a lot of your and our time and a lot of bandwidth.

If not, he is the only one who can deal with the moderator who is deleting the posts/threads.

[Tippiechick]

Originally Posted by Kevin

I think she wants us to agree with her that it's okay for her to post her opinions.

Or is it something else?

I'm not asking for anyone's approval of my posts. I just want my threads and posts to be treated in the same respect as others on here. Some people are able to say anything they want and it stays up. Do I post things that aren't nice? Sometimes, yes. And, sometimes people need to stop being so sensitive. But, what gets me is when there are people on this board that report almost anything I say. And, there are mods that delete too freely. How about a, "Grow some thicker skin," response to people that constantly accuse people of TOS violations? I mean, if those same people complaining have been involved in TOS violations themselves, I think it's harassment in itself to CONSTANTLY report people.

John saw this thread. He also moved the third one back in so it could be discussed. He said he would keep an eye on it. Yet, it was deleted by someone in here. I say if John saw nothing wrong with it, it should have been allowed to have stayed. If offending posts violate the TOS, then delete them. But, just because someone doesn't particulary care for the topic doesn't mean the whole thread should be deleted because of a couple of posts. THAT is my point. I have PM'd him on the subject. He read through thread two or three and saw nothing wrong with it. That is why I am reposting it. If he pm's me back and says he changed his mind, fine. But, until then, I stand by the thread and its subject matter.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Tippiechick

if those same people complaining have been involved in TOS violations themselves, I think it's harassment in itself to CONSTANTLY report people.

If what they're reporting actually is harssment, it's not harassment to report it. There's a fine line between being mean/blunt and being harassing. It's perfectly proper to call a moderator or John's attention to something which an individual thinks may be over the line. On a side note, how do you know you are currently being reported "constantly"? Did someone tell you this? Or do you just assume this is occuring?

You did the proper thing in bringing up your disagreements with the moderators of this forum up to John. That's the proper path to take.

John saw this thread. He also moved the third one back in so it could be discussed. He said he would keep an eye on it. Yet, it was deleted by someone in here. I say if John saw nothing wrong with it, it should have been allowed to have stayed. If offending posts violate the TOS, then delete them.

Since moderators don't get paid, sometimes the 'nuclear option' (removing the thread entirely) is much easier than giving it a careful pruning. Especially once it's 8 pages long and has devolved into a dramafest. We don't always have the time or energy to make everyone happy, so sometimes, in our haste, we do what we think is best and remove the thread. I've done it on rare occasion myself.

But, just because someone doesn't particulary care for the topic doesn't mean the whole thread should be deleted because of a couple of posts. THAT is my point. I have PM'd him on the subject. He read through thread two or three and saw nothing wrong with it. That is why I am reposting it. If he pm's me back and says he changed his mind, fine. But, until then, I stand by the thread and its subject matter.

The thread and its subject matter stating you have a right to an opinion? I don't think anyone disagrees with you so long as you express yourself in a TOS compliant way (not to insinuate that I know you've done otherwise because honestly, whether or not you're violating the TOS in a forum I don't moderate is not on my radar screen).