Your thoughts on AI: discussion goes here.

[kdonline]

Okay Barbara, since you're publicly commenting about your moderating capabilities on this matter of AI, then I will post this here, rather than a PM.

Regardless of being pro/anti AI, as Valkyrie said earlier in this thread, Membership Selection is ritual. It should not be discussed on an internet board.

On the D9 boards, everytime someone asks about joining, they are immediately told not to ask & it pretty much ends there. THAT is good moderation.

How come this cannot be done on the AI board?

If someone posts that they are interested in AI, then there are plenty of ACTUAL AIs who can contact them PRIVATELY, if they wish. No connections should be set up publicly on this board. And CERTAINLY, men or even non-NPC members (no matter how much they have read), should not offer advice. This, IMHO, is part of the problem.

PNAI: "Hi. I am interested in AI. What should I do?"
MODbot: "AI = membership selection = ritual. It cannot be discussed on this board. I suggest you contact someone locally who can better advise you. Check out www.npcwomen.org or the individial sororities' websites for more information."

GCers who feel they HAVE to add to the thread: (see MODbot response.) Just like we all know how to respond to "what's the best sorority?" we should know how to respond to "how can I AI?"

GC who AI'd, in a PM: "I was an AI and I am willing to answer your questions.."


NOTHING should be posted publicly about membership selection.

[BaylorBean]

Originally Posted by kdonline

Okay Barbara, since you're publicly commenting about your moderating capabilities on this matter of AI, then I will post this here, rather than a PM.

Regardless of being pro/anti AI, as Valkyrie said earlier in this thread, Membership Selection is ritual. It should not be discussed on an internet board.

On the D9 boards, everytime someone asks about joining, they are immediately told not to ask & it pretty much ends there. THAT is good moderation.

How come this cannot be done on the AI board?

If someone posts that they are interested in AI, then there are plenty of ACTUAL AIs who can contact them PRIVATELY, if they wish. No connections should be set up publicly on this board. And CERTAINLY, men or even non-NPC members (no matter how much they have read), should not offer advice. This, IMHO, is part of the problem.

PNAI: "Hi. I am interested in AI. What should I do?"
MODbot: "AI = membership selection = ritual. It cannot be discussed on this board. I suggest you contact someone locally who can better advise you. Check out www.npcwomen.org or the individial sororities' websites for more information."

GCers who feel they HAVE to add to the thread: (see MODbot response.) Just like we all know how to respond to "what's the best sorority?" we should know how to respond to "how can I AI?"

GC who AI'd, in a PM: "I was an AI and I am willing to answer your questions.."


NOTHING should be posted publicly about membership selection.

This is exactly what I was trying to say in my previous post. Thank you guys for making it clear.

[Buttonz]

Originally Posted by kdonline

Okay Barbara, since you're publicly commenting about your moderating capabilities on this matter of AI, then I will post this here, rather than a PM.

Regardless of being pro/anti AI, as Valkyrie said earlier in this thread, Membership Selection is ritual. It should not be discussed on an internet board.

On the D9 boards, everytime someone asks about joining, they are immediately told not to ask & it pretty much ends there. THAT is good moderation.

How come this cannot be done on the AI board?

If someone posts that they are interested in AI, then there are plenty of ACTUAL AIs who can contact them PRIVATELY, if they wish. No connections should be set up publicly on this board. And CERTAINLY, men or even non-NPC members (no matter how much they have read), should not offer advice. This, IMHO, is part of the problem.

PNAI: "Hi. I am interested in AI. What should I do?"
MODbot: "AI = membership selection = ritual. It cannot be discussed on this board. I suggest you contact someone locally who can better advise you. Check out www.npcwomen.org or the individial sororities' websites for more information."

GCers who feel they HAVE to add to the thread: (see MODbot response.) Just like we all know how to respond to "what's the best sorority?" we should know how to respond to "how can I AI?"

GC who AI'd, in a PM: "I was an AI and I am willing to answer your questions.."


NOTHING should be posted publicly about membership selection.

Agreed 100%

[Jen]

Originally Posted by kdonline

Okay Barbara, since you're publicly commenting about your moderating capabilities on this matter of AI, then I will post this here, rather than a PM.

Regardless of being pro/anti AI, as Valkyrie said earlier in this thread, Membership Selection is ritual. It should not be discussed on an internet board.

On the D9 boards, everytime someone asks about joining, they are immediately told not to ask & it pretty much ends there. THAT is good moderation.

How come this cannot be done on the AI board?

If someone posts that they are interested in AI, then there are plenty of ACTUAL AIs who can contact them PRIVATELY, if they wish. No connections should be set up publicly on this board. And CERTAINLY, men or even non-NPC members (no matter how much they have read), should not offer advice. This, IMHO, is part of the problem.

PNAI: "Hi. I am interested in AI. What should I do?"
MODbot: "AI = membership selection = ritual. It cannot be discussed on this board. I suggest you contact someone locally who can better advise you. Check out www.npcwomen.org or the individial sororities' websites for more information."

GCers who feel they HAVE to add to the thread: (see MODbot response.) Just like we all know how to respond to "what's the best sorority?" we should know how to respond to "how can I AI?"

GC who AI'd, in a PM: "I was an AI and I am willing to answer your questions.."


NOTHING should be posted publicly about membership selection.

Excellent idea.

[_Lisa_]

Originally Posted by kdonline

Okay Barbara, since you're publicly commenting about your moderating capabilities on this matter of AI, then I will post this here, rather than a PM.

Regardless of being pro/anti AI, as Valkyrie said earlier in this thread, Membership Selection is ritual. It should not be discussed on an internet board.

On the D9 boards, everytime someone asks about joining, they are immediately told not to ask & it pretty much ends there. THAT is good moderation.

How come this cannot be done on the AI board?

If someone posts that they are interested in AI, then there are plenty of ACTUAL AIs who can contact them PRIVATELY, if they wish. No connections should be set up publicly on this board. And CERTAINLY, men or even non-NPC members (no matter how much they have read), should not offer advice. This, IMHO, is part of the problem.

PNAI: "Hi. I am interested in AI. What should I do?"
MODbot: "AI = membership selection = ritual. It cannot be discussed on this board. I suggest you contact someone locally who can better advise you. Check out www.npcwomen.org or the individial sororities' websites for more information."

GCers who feel they HAVE to add to the thread: (see MODbot response.) Just like we all know how to respond to "what's the best sorority?" we should know how to respond to "how can I AI?"

GC who AI'd, in a PM: "I was an AI and I am willing to answer your questions.."


NOTHING should be posted publicly about membership selection.

I agree. This forum has become a circus & should no longer exist.

[TrueBlueKappa]

Originally Posted by kdonline

Okay Barbara, since you're publicly commenting about your moderating capabilities on this matter of AI, then I will post this here, rather than a PM.

Regardless of being pro/anti AI, as Valkyrie said earlier in this thread, Membership Selection is ritual. It should not be discussed on an internet board.

On the D9 boards, everytime someone asks about joining, they are immediately told not to ask & it pretty much ends there. THAT is good moderation.

How come this cannot be done on the AI board?

If someone posts that they are interested in AI, then there are plenty of ACTUAL AIs who can contact them PRIVATELY, if they wish. No connections should be set up publicly on this board. And CERTAINLY, men or even non-NPC members (no matter how much they have read), should not offer advice. This, IMHO, is part of the problem.

PNAI: "Hi. I am interested in AI. What should I do?"
MODbot: "AI = membership selection = ritual. It cannot be discussed on this board. I suggest you contact someone locally who can better advise you. Check out www.npcwomen.org or the individial sororities' websites for more information."

GCers who feel they HAVE to add to the thread: (see MODbot response.) Just like we all know how to respond to "what's the best sorority?" we should know how to respond to "how can I AI?"

GC who AI'd, in a PM: "I was an AI and I am willing to answer your questions.."


NOTHING should be posted publicly about membership selection.

EXCELLENT post. I completely agree.

[adpiucf]

I an anti an AI sub forum, for all of the reasons KDOnline stated above.

[kddani]

Originally Posted by adpiucf

I an anti an AI sub forum, for all of the reasons KDOnline stated above.

That's exactly it. SOME people try to make all of us to be "anti AI" when in reality I don't know anyone who's totally against AI, but I think all of us are against the AI FORUM.

There's a distinction between being anti-forum and anti-AI.

[Tippiechick]

Originally Posted by kddani

That's exactly it. SOME people try to make all of us to be "anti AI" when in reality I don't know anyone who's totally against AI, but I think all of us are against the AI FORUM.

There's a distinction between being anti-forum and anti-AI.

I agree 100%. Thank you.

[UGAalum94]

This whole AI debate kind of blows my mind. I haven't been reading GC long enought to get why it's such a big deal.

But I do want to point out something that strikes me as a faulty premise: the argument that the AI forum shouldn't exist because information about AI is membership selection, and therefore, ritual.

Recruitment isn't membership selections. Information about what PNM can do to seek information isn't membership selection. Only the whys and hows of members actually being chosen gets to the ritual level, as I see it.

If I can tell an 18 year old how to sign up for rush or COR, why couldn't I tell a 35 year old about AI?

[adpiucf]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

If I can tell an 18 year old how to sign up for rush or COR, why couldn't I tell a 35 year old about AI?

That is the whole point. You as as a sorority woman can approach someone you know IRL about AI. We just don't want internet solicitiation of AI into our sororities.

[Tippiechick]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

Recruitment isn't membership selections.

If I can tell an 18 year old how to sign up for rush or COR, why couldn't I tell a 35 year old about AI?

1) Recruitment IS COMPLETELY about membership selection. Do you talk about what goes on in your rounds? Do you talk about WHY you did or did NOT choose someone?

2) If the 35 year-old wants to learn about AI because she never made it into a group in college and is now yearning for days of her youth, then AI should not be for her.
If the 35 year-old is a spectacular woman who would actually be an ASSET to a group, then you should be able to tell her about AI. But, see you would actually personally know enough about this woman for her character to suggest discussion of AI.
On the internet, you don't have enough information to REALLY make a good decision about someone's true personality and background. Would you really want to PERSONALLY VOUCH YOURSELF for someone you met online? That's my point.