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09-26-2006, 10:37 PM
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You'll get no debate from me that Fox is conservative. However, I think they're more inline with the everyday personalities on CNN or MSNBC, while Olbermann is FAR LEFT. At least Bill O concedes ground from time to time and criticizes his own party...
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09-26-2006, 10:51 PM
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Here's a quote I find curious from a "journalistic" standpoint from a story on the Fox News webpage in a story on Senator Clinton defending her husband:
"In the interview on "FOX News Sunday," which got its best ratings in nearly three years, Clinton accused Wallace of a "conservative hit job..."
Are any of the cable "News" networks really "journalistic?"
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09-27-2006, 12:18 AM
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...while Olbermann is FAR LEFT.
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And THANK GOD for that.
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09-27-2006, 12:40 PM
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Yes, I thank God all the time that we have radical liberals posing as unbiased journalists...I guess its only a bad thing if you prefer for the media to report the news, rather than persuade the general public.
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09-27-2006, 01:59 PM
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Are any of the cable "News" networks really "journalistic?"
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LOL
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09-27-2006, 02:49 PM
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Yes, I thank God all the time that we have radical liberals posing as unbiased journalists...I guess its only a bad thing if you prefer for the media to report the news, rather than persuade the general public.
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Bah... most of the "big news" in the US isn't really about journalism -> it's about the ratings... and radicals or "reporters" on the left or right (Oberman, O'Reilly, Dobbs, Beck, Covuto) all act as audience draws. It's unfortunate that in the battle for ratings and advertising revenue that these "journalists" are given a soap-box to spout from...
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09-27-2006, 03:06 PM
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Of course they are. I'd actually be ok with Keith if they'd just make it out that his show is a liberal one. Nobody debates that Tucker or Oreilly are unbiased.
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09-27-2006, 04:07 PM
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[QUOTE=shinerbock;1328707Nobody debates that Tucker or Oreilly are unbiased.[/QUOTE]
Except for O'Reilly. He thinks he's unbiased.
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09-27-2006, 05:08 PM
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Well I'm no fan of him, but he really isn't straight party line really, neither is Tucker. They both criticize the GOP, but they are obviously conservative.
My comparisons, not on anything but political ideology
On Right....On Left
Tucker=Anderson Cooper
Oreilly=Chris Matthews
Limbaugh=Olbermann/Maher
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09-27-2006, 05:16 PM
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Well I'm no fan of him, but he really isn't straight party line really, neither is Tucker. They both criticize the GOP, but they are obviously conservative.
My comparisons, not on anything but political ideology
On Right....On Left
Tucker=Anderson Cooper
Oreilly=Chris Matthews
Limbaugh=Olbermann/Maher
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Very interesting list there. Well thought out.
Have a bonus question for you:
Which well known talker is not what they make themselves out to be?
The media business, for many reasons, is a very tight business for talkers, DJ's et al. So they do not market themselfs as what they are but for the need of the postition.
And no, the answer will not get posted here, but it is something to think about.
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09-27-2006, 05:46 PM
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I'm not sure what you're getting at, but you may be speaking of Dr. Laura Schlessinger
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09-27-2006, 05:57 PM
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I'm not sure what you're getting at, but you may be speaking of Dr. Laura Schlessinger
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No-not her.
Just as the market place for actors has gotten tighter due to non-scripted shows, the same with "personalities". With canned show, less local shows, less live shows et al, there are more "personalities" than shows. So rather than saying they are rock DJ's , they mold themselves to be fans of Opra or country/western if there is a job opening some place. Same with politics and POV.
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09-27-2006, 06:19 PM
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You're absolutely right about that. Its almost as if journalism and sports and entertainment has all merged, people move back and forth, while viewers presume that person to have extensive qualifications in whichever area they are currently working.
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09-27-2006, 09:27 PM
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Which well known talker is not what they make themselves out to be?
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Cooper, I think. It's been said he's a card-carrying member of the GOP.
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09-27-2006, 09:28 PM
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Yes, I thank God all the time that we have radical liberals posing as unbiased journalists...I guess its only a bad thing if you prefer for the media to report the news, rather than persuade the general public.
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Baby, I live in Canada - where the real journalists are.
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