question about UGA frats

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by KLPDaisy

I hear they make all their pledges not shower and grow mullets.

Is that why all your ex-boyfriends are from that frat?? And how coincidental that you dumped every single one of them as soon as they were allowed to shower again and shave the mullet.

[tunatartare]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Is that why all your ex-boyfriends are from that frat?? And how coincidental that you dumped every single one of them as soon as they were allowed to shower again and shave the mullet.

I cannot bring myself to date a guy who would stoop so low as to shave a mullet. Now if he shaved his head and shaved a Nascar number or something of that status into it, I would understand and admire that, but other than that, for someone to just destroy a thing of beauty like that, it's unfathomable.

[jon1856]

I was just wondering what happened to the person who started this off..

There is not much you can do for your son once he is going through rush, for he is the one gathering info while being check out by others.

You can talk to him, be a sounding board for him but it is best left to him to make the final choice.

As said in this and other thread, there is no sure thing a National Identification for a Fraternity. Not only are they different school to school but even year to year.

My home chapter was one of the top houses for well over 20 years-high GPA, occupency, leadership et al. Then it all fell apart, lost their way and then lost my house.

I do have contact with my National and if you really want me to, I could give them call and see just what they have to say.

[dgdramadawg]

Originally Posted by UGATammy

Qwerty:

I was a DPhiE at UGA ('01-'05) and also known as "pic-man" for a lot of the Greek events (socials, formals, philanthropy, etc.) Pretty much all of the fraternities are great! There's a lot of fraternities to chose from, but don't just limit your decision on their reputation. Honestly, when you meet the guys it's whether if you get along with them and vice-versa. Granted their rush is way different than the girls, but in theory it's about the same. Think about what you are really looking for. There are a few fraternities that are rebuilding and if you are looking into helping create new history, then check them out. As a pic-man, I went to a lot of socials, and honestly I have never said that I hated ABC fraternity. They have always been very nice to me and made sure I had a great time. As well as being a fellow Greek, they have been supportive to my sorority and have always been very kind. So, I say just take it as it comes. When rush comes, just enjoy the experience and you'll definitley know which one you want. I totally would not base my decision on their reputation. Everyone interrupts things differently. Either way, you'll have a great time and get a chance to meet people who will have an impact on your life forever. Best of luck to ya!

Tammy
Psi Chapter - Delta Phi Epsilon
University of Georgia
Go Dawgs!!!!!!

I attended UGA '01-'04 (and had my photo taken by Tammy!) and agree that all of the fraternities have a pretty good reputation among the sorority ladies... every girl has her favorites, but every girl's favorites are different. Very few have a set rep as the "party," "smart," "rich," etc. houses because there are so many of them on campus... there are some that have reputations as being more "Southern" houses, but that's about it (and it's easy to tell that during rush).

[UGATammy]

dgdramadawg so has it on the nail. Trust us, your son will see which fraternities he likes more. But you have to stress to him that it's so very important for him to go with an open mind. Our opinions don't really matter because everyone is different. All the fraternities and sororities get along and that's why we have one of the best and largest Greek life in the U.S. Honestly, as corny as this may seem, all of the chapters at UGA are special to the campus and it its history. It would be so odd to not have one of the chapters. So please please emphasize to your son, to just go in with an open mind and be ready for anything, not to mention take in the experience and just have fun!

Oh yeah, dgdramadawg...that's is soo cool that you remembered me! I miss my pic-man days and I can't believe someone recognized me! Thanks for always being so nice to me!

Tammy

[jon1856]

" The final type is the drug house, which is generally full of cokeheads............I think its safe to say SAE has the stranglehold on these houses across the South. That being said, SAE is very good at many southern schools, so if its your thing it may be worthwhile checking out."

shinerbock-Just where are you getting this information from??? Yes, I have heard of some problems at some SAE Houses, but I have also heard of major problems at other houses of other GLO's. Just look what happened at Dartmouth.

Shinerbock-you may wish to re-read this thread. Most posters have said that one can not, should not generalize any house, any chapter, any GLO.

[LaneSig]

Sigma Chi standing up for Sigma Alpha Epsilon.

Dude, I cannot believe you have said that SAE has a "stranglehold" on houses with a coke/drug problem. Let us count the ways how that statement is wrong:

#1 - Unfortunately, many chapters of different fraternities at different campuses have members who have/ are developing drug habits. This is a problem within the fraternity system. Although it does tend to be more prevelant in some chapters, it is not as widespread as saying one particular fraternity has the patent on it.

#2 - Do you have friends in every single chapter of SAE? If you do and they have told you drugs are a problem, then you need to tell them to get help. If you don't, then you are going on rumours and hearsay and you don't have facts.

#3 - That statement is just plain wrong.

[jon1856]

LaneSig;

Thank you my Sigma Chi Brother. Very well said and laid out.
The only correction I have is that drugs ( of all kinds and types ) are not a problem only within the fraternity system. All living groups have the problem, it is a sociatly problem.

Greeks get hit, many times, because it is easier to write about ZZZ Chapter of YYY Fraternity than about RRR Dorm.

[jon1856]

shinerbock
"The final type is the drug house, which is generally full of cokeheads. Of course, many times these houses are still good on campus, and I think its safe to say SAE has the stranglehold on these houses across the South."is what you posted. Does not make a difference if National or reginal.
If they are you friends, get them help or get rid of them.

And show us just where your facts on SAE only are coming from. And I will pass your beliefs onto National for their opinion and follow-up

It is not only one living group with problems, as I wrote before.

While my house had some Brothers involved in drug and alchole problems, I could point out a house next door that was generally at 30,000 feet. But I know other chapters of same GLO what were great houses.

Re-read what my Sigma Chi brother wrote.

I do have to start wondering if one has an axe to grind...

[jon1856]

It is my obligation to report this to my Risk Management Director and I have already done so.

As for the rest of your new statement, you seemed to have started to back-track a bit.

And I do know, and many others most likly do recognize how common cocaine is in professional society.

But personally, I do not condone any drug use/abuse, nor do I generally consider them ( the users) be responsible and intelligent people.

If they are your friends, help your friends out.

Not clear on something else you wrote:"I rank SAE as one of the best overall fraternities in the southeast" Why? Are they good because of the drugs or are they good in spite of the drugs????

[tunatartare]

Originally Posted by jon1856

It is my obligation to report this to my Risk Management Director and I have already done so.

As for the rest of your new statement, you seemed to have started to back-track a bit.

And I do know, and many others most likly do recognize how common cocaine is in professional society.

But personally, I do not condone any drug use/abuse, nor do I generally consider them ( the users) be responsible and intelligent people.

If they are your friends, help your friends out.

Not clear on something else you wrote:"I rank SAE as one of the best overall fraternities in the southeast" Why? Are they good because of the drugs or are they good in spite of the drugs????

You're kidding, right? You reported drug use to your HQ and the only basis you have for it is that a guy not even in your fraternity told you that several chapters in the South (didn't even give you schools or anything like that) said that SAE's condone cocaine use?!?! Please.

[shinerbock]

Well I wouldnt limit your reporting to just SAE in the south then, or to SAE at all, cocaine is very popular at major universities everywhere. I don't know too much about drug use, but from what I've seen cocaine is different from other drugs. Obviously I don't condone usage, but those I know who do use do so without any regularity, and seemingly without lasting effects. Maybe someone who knows more can say why this is. Regarding my admiration for SAE, it is obviously not because of drug use. However, there may be some correlation between cocaine use (which I think is quite different from other drug use) and good fraternities. I think this undoubtedly has to do with money and social abilities. Obviously many in good fraternities are wealthy, and wealthy students have more ability to purchase drugs. Also, in my experiences people who blow coke generally are very likable and outgoing, and those people make for a good fraternity. So I guess I'm saying that good(in my view) fraternities are more likely to have members who do cocaine. Thus, SAE is not good because of the drugs, but the drugs are present because the fraternity is good, if that makes any sense.

[Buttonz]

Originally Posted by KLPDaisy

You're kidding, right? You reported drug use to your HQ and the only basis you have for it is that a guy not even in your fraternity told you that several chapters in the South (didn't even give you schools or anything like that) said that SAE's condone cocaine use?!?! Please.

I really hope he is joking....

[shinerbock]

I don't think cocaine use in fraternities is any big secret.

[tunatartare]

It might and it might not be. But you'd have to be off your rocker to report something serious like this against any chapter and the to have only "evidence" against it be a post you read on greekchat.com.