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[utealum]

Texas A&M and Texas Tech aren't military. (The A&M, for Agricultural and Mechanical, and the Tech, for Technical, are pretty good clues there.)

[TSteven]

Originally posted by Rudey
Have there ever been fraternities at military schools like west point, annapolis, air force academy, and the rest?

-Rudey

"... and the rest?"

Kentucky Military Institute (1845 to 1973) had the following chapters. [dates listed if known]

Alpha Tau Omega (Mu chapter) [??]
Chi Phi (Pi chapter) [1872-1883]
Delta Kappa Epsilon (Iota chapter) [1854-1864?]
Phi Delta Theta (Kentucky Beta chapter) [??]
Sigma Alpha Epsilon (Kentucky Chi chapter) [1860-1887]

My understanding is that some of the chapters closed, while others "relocated" their charter to another Kentucky college. This was due to either the War of Northern Aggression, or once KMI became solely a preparatory school.

[Firehouse]

Texas A&M was largely military for a long time. In fact, there was a time when Texas A&M graduated more officers than West Point.

We had a chapter at The Citadel in 1889. They closed at the request of the school after initiating only 13 men, but one of those men - Robert Adger Smythe - ran our Fraternity as chief executive officer until 1933 and then remained an icon until his death in the 1960s.

Texas A&M still maintains a uniformed Corps of Cadets and annualy commissions more officers than any ROTC program in the country, and comes in just behind the military acadamies. More Corps of Cadets members served in World War II than any of the service acadamies and 14,000 served as officers. More than West Point and Annapolis combined. Texas A&M also has 7 Congressional Medal of Honor winners it calls sons.

Texas A&M was an all-mens military college until the 1960's when membership in the Corps became voluntary. Around that time, women were also officially admitted for the first time. Greek Life was officially recognized at A&M in 1985.

Texas Tech is a safety school in West Texas for kids who can't get into A&M or Texas. The only claim to fame in Lubbock is a statue of Will Rogers and a thug of a men's basketball coach. They should NEVER be confused with one of the two flagship universities in the state, and Tom Earp, I believe you know better.

Kitso
KS 361 more STD's on a Tech Coed than on a stripper at a Duke LAX party

[utealum]

I stand corrected!

[Coramoor]

Beta Theta Pi had a chapter at Anapolis for a total of four years or so.

I don't have my book in front of me for the exact years, but it wasn't long.

[macallan25]

TEXAS A&M UNIVERSITY
I live in a town the size of a piece of bacteria on a fly's ass. I spend Friday nights practicing my yells. I can whoop better than anyone can in my battalion. I beat up gays, fish, hunt, and yell for fun. If I'm not yelling, drinking with my battalion, or beating up gays, I am at the Dixie Chicken. My father went to school here, just as his father did before him, and his father before him. My brother went to t.u. They never found his body after he came home that first Christmas in college. I won't walk on the grass. I look forward to the day I, too, will do the elephant walk. I believe it is cool to do something because they tell me it is tradition. If something is not a tradition and we accidentally do it, we then make it one. I can call UT t.u. if I want, even though UT was the original first class university in Texas. I worship a dog....seriously.
I am an Aggie

Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
Texas A&M still maintains a uniformed Corps of Cadets and annualy commissions more officers than any ROTC program in the country, and comes in just behind the military acadamies. More Corps of Cadets members served in World War II than any of the service acadamies and 14,000 served as officers. More than West Point and Annapolis combined. Texas A&M also has 7 Congressional Medal of Honor winners it calls sons.

Texas A&M was an all-mens military college until the 1960's when membership in the Corps became voluntary. Around that time, women were also officially admitted for the first time. Greek Life was officially recognized at A&M in 1985.

Texas Tech is a safety school in West Texas for kids who can't get into A&M or Texas. The only claim to fame in Lubbock is a statue of Will Rogers and a thug of a men's basketball coach. They should NEVER be confused with one of the two flagship universities in the state, and Tom Earp, I believe you know better.

Kitso
KS 361 more STD's on a Tech Coed than on a stripper at a Duke LAX party

[audaz49]

There was a sorority chapter at West Point from 2001 to 2003.

[LPIDelta]

Originally posted by audaz49
There was a sorority chapter at West Point from 2001 to 2003.

I really doubt this. If it was, it certainly was not sanctioned or official in any way, shape or form. And I would guess that if it was "discovered," the cadets would have been punished or ordered to disband--because they can do that at USMA.

Unless you're thinking about the "Order of the Rose" and that is/was NOT a sorority--but I won't go into that here.

I stand corrected on the fraternity thing at USNA--I was thinking more about "modern times" rather than the 1800s. USNA was clearly a different school in the first few years of its existence than it has been for say the last 100 years. I worked at West Point from 1996-1999, and the Naval Academy from 1999-2003, and in doing personal research, I was told that fraternities were not permitted at the federal academies because they would not contribute to the mission of the schools (not my thoughts, just what I was told). Students are organized into companies and do things as a class--rather than as individual groups (although I will agree that some of the 'clubs' take on social flavors.)

Edited for grammar--sorry!

Originally posted by macallan25
TEXAS A&M UNIVERSITY
I live in a town the size of a piece of bacteria on a fly's ass. I spend Friday nights practicing my yells. I can whoop better than anyone can in my battalion. I beat up gays, fish, hunt, and yell for fun. If I'm not yelling, drinking with my battalion, or beating up gays, I am at the Dixie Chicken. My father went to school here, just as his father did before him, and his father before him. My brother went to t.u. They never found his body after he came home that first Christmas in college. I won't walk on the grass. I look forward to the day I, too, will do the elephant walk. I believe it is cool to do something because they tell me it is tradition. If something is not a tradition and we accidentally do it, we then make it one. I can call UT t.u. if I want, even though UT was the original first class university in Texas. I worship a dog....seriously.
I am an Aggie

I hope that's not meant as some sort of an insult. That pretty much does sum us up. And you know? Its just as funny now as it was the first time I read it, way back in the 1990's. But thanks for digging up this little trip down memory lane.

Kitso
KS 361 friends I have that went to t.u. and know that A&M was founded first.

[macallan25]

Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
I hope that's not meant as some sort of an insult. That pretty much does sum us up. And you know? Its just as funny now as it was the first time I read it, way back in the 1990's. But thanks for digging up this little trip down memory lane.

Kitso
KS 361 friends I have that went to t.u. and know that A&M was founded first.

No A&M was not "founded" first. The ideas of both schools were conceived at the same time. Texas A&M College only opened first because more time and funds were needed to establish, UT...the intended flagship/first class university in Texas.

"The idea behind The University of Texas was originally conceived in 1827. Upon Texas's independence, the Congress of the Republic of Texas adopted the Constitution of the Republic, which made its own provision to establish a system of public education in Texas. A bill providing that twenty leagues of land be set aside for two colleges or universities was then created. By the time Cullen's bill became a law on January 26, 1839, Congress had agreed to set aside fifty leagues of land. In addition, forty acres in the new capital of Austin were reserved and designated "College Hill."

Congress failed to act any further until 1858, when lawmakers set out in the Act of 1858 $100,000 in United States bonds left from the Compromise of 1850 to put towards the universities. However, Texas's secession from the Union and the outbreak of the American Civil War prevented Congress from carrying out these plans.

After the war, the Constitution of 1866 mandated that the state establish the university "at an early day." The Constitution of 1876 finally called for the creation of a "university of the first class," The University of Texas. It revoked the endowment of the railroad lands of the Act of 1858, but appropriated one million acres West Texas. In 1883, another two million was granted, with income from the sale of or grazing rights to the land going to The University of Texas and Texas A&M College. The passing of the Morrill Act in 1862 had facilitated the construction of Texas A&M, established in 1876. In 1881, Austin was chosen as the site of the "Main University," and Galveston was designated the location of the "Medical Department." In addition, the legislature authorized a governing board of eight regents. An official ceremony began construction on what is now referred to as the Old Main Building in late 1882 on the original "College Hill." The university finally opened its doors on September 15, 1883."

Originally posted by macallan25
No A&M was not "founded" first. The ideas of both schools were conceived at the same time. Texas A&M College only opened first because more time and funds were needed to establish, UT...the intended flagship/first class university in Texas.

The passing of the Morrill Act in 1862 had facilitated the construction of Texas A&M, established in 1876. In 1881, Austin was chosen as the site of the "Main University," and Galveston was designated the location of the "Medical Department." In addition, the legislature authorized a governing board of eight regents. An official ceremony began construction on what is now referred to as the Old Main Building in late 1882 on the original "College Hill." The university finally opened its doors on September 15, 1883."

Spin it how you want tsip, A&M opened for classes before "the university". And regardless of who intended what to be the flagship university in the state, it remains that currently BOTH universities are first-class schools, neither being head and shoulders above the other.

But, if you want to continue this pissing match, by all means take it to the "I Like Texas" thread and lets un-hijack this one.

[macallan25]

I know I know. Obviously I am biased. True, both are great schools...no arguing that. Just messing around.

[Tom Earp]

Kitso, clean out YOUR Mail Box!

[33girl]

When I first saw the title of this thread, I thought "algore" was a new society like Acacia or something.

Yay Kitso!!