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03-29-2006, 06:05 PM
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Isnt there always editorilizing on a situation such as this?
So, She was a Stripper.
"IF" there was a Rape that inqured then, some action should be taken.
DNA Samples will prove semen that was there, not just a single speciman.
How many witnesses were there and who cooberated this?
Guess time will tell wont it?
DA, Quote:"This looks like pretty straight reportage to me. Out of curiousity, why would you say the media is attacking? Lots of quotes, but no real editorializing. Or am I missing something?"
Maybe You dont seem to understand from a legal stand point, just a Media stand point. 
"IF" this happened, then burn their butts!
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03-29-2006, 06:15 PM
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No, I think I understand. Maybe I should read it again, but the only thing I saw in what I read that isn't either a quote or paraphrase of the legal authorities (including the DA's office), administrators or witnesses is where they explain their policy of not naming sexual assault victims -- which, although not universal, is fairly common.
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03-29-2006, 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by kddani
DNA samples will only prove that the person who gave the sample didn't actually commit the rape. The DNA results and anything that might amount to aiding and abetting aren't really related. Withholding information about what may have or may not have happened has nothing to do with their DNA.
I don't know how much it is the police "attacking" the team than the community, the media, etc.
I don't know that I necessarily agree with the approach that seems to be going on here by the DA's office, but i'm not familiar with the particularities of the criminal laws of NC.
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Listen, all I'm saying is that there are all these "Reported" rapes out there. Even on GC there was a thread where a lot of women got worked up over it and it turned out the guy was innocent. The team provided DNA which will then show who had sex with her. From there they can determine if it was consensual or rape. If they are aiding and abetting, then charge them; if not, they can shutup. But I'm sure the more the prosecutor can poison the environment now, the better for any case he may have.
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03-29-2006, 06:34 PM
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Originally posted by DeltAlum
No, I think I understand. Maybe I should read it again, but the only thing I saw in what I read that isn't either a quote or paraphrase of the legal authorities (including the DA's office), administrators or witnesses is where they explain their policy of not naming sexual assault victims -- which, although not universal, is fairly common.
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The other aspect of media bias is how much coverage an issue gets. If you report lightning striking a man over and over and over on the news and talk about how awful it is and show the results, I'm sure a lot of people will get scared of lightning.
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03-29-2006, 06:52 PM
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Originally posted by Rudey
But I'm sure the more the prosecutor can poison the environment now, the better for any case he may have.
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The most interesting thing is that pre-trial publicity (which I'll call 'PTP') has a much more powerful effect on a case if it's negative, against the defedant. Negative PTP is one of the toughest barriers to overcome - and casting this in a racial light is probably the best-spun PTP I've ever seen from a public officer, regardless of whether it's true or not, since the jury will most likely have between 4 and 8 African Americans (not much risk of needing Batson here) . . .
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03-29-2006, 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by Rudey
The other aspect of media bias is how much coverage an issue gets. If you report lightning striking a man over and over and over on the news and talk about how awful it is and show the results, I'm sure a lot of people will get scared of lightning.
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I understand the logic of the last few posts.
It's a delima for the media because it's a story that people want to know about because of the scope and sensationalism of the alleged crime itself and the fact that an entire sports team may be involved in stonewalling.
Cops and prosecutors are public officials, and it can be a difficult ethical issue in terms how much of what they say to use or not use.
In terms of pointing out that the woman is black and every member of the team except one is white becomes a part of the story since the one man didn't have to give a DNA sample. In fact, it probably becomes part of the story because of the public racial slurs reported by the witnesses.
This is one of those times where reporting will be criticized no matter what, how much, or how little is said I think.
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03-29-2006, 07:30 PM
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Understanding all of the posts, it suddenly comes to a Ethnic revolation?
This as was Reported was a Student from an other College who was Black. Am I correct in this?
She was an Exotic Dancer/Stripper as it were!
Was that given the right to do what was said was to Her? 
Maybe it would be better to see what actually comes out on this even though it is a great discussion!
DA I am sure You will agree, I hope, That Media is first on the scene and will profess a lot for headlines. It is called ratings.
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03-29-2006, 10:46 PM
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Originally posted by Tom Earp
She was an Exotic Dancer/Stripper as it were!
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I think the article said she worked for an escort service and this was the first time she was going to do (I think they said) suggestive dancing.
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03-29-2006, 11:38 PM
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Originally posted by DeltAlum
I think the article said she worked for an escort service and this was the first time she was going to do (I think they said) suggestive dancing.
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An escort service? So she's a hooker?
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03-30-2006, 12:03 AM
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An escort service? So she's a hooker?
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The two aren't necessarily always synonomous.
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03-30-2006, 12:34 AM
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So you know quite a bit about the industry?
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03-30-2006, 12:37 AM
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The two aren't necessarily always synonomous.
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Really? In Durham, NC? Seriously?
I'm pretty sure they're synonymous almost everywhere, except for amazingly over-the-top wealthy parts of the world . . . and even then . . .
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03-30-2006, 01:05 AM
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Really? In Durham, NC? Seriously?
I'm pretty sure they're synonymous almost everywhere, except for amazingly over-the-top wealthy parts of the world . . . and even then . . .
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I'm willing to put money on it that she was a hooker. Ask mccallan/saetex what escorts really are since his mom escorts truckers at least 7 times daily.
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03-30-2006, 12:10 PM
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But he said he did not necessarily expect the DNA samples taken last Thursday from the team's 46 white players to match evidence taken from the accuser.
"I would not be surprised if condoms were used," he said.
What does that mean? If they used condoms, what evidence did they leave? Wait is this like the Kobe Bryant trial?
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03-30-2006, 01:33 PM
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Really? In Durham, NC? Seriously?
I'm pretty sure they're synonymous almost everywhere, except for amazingly over-the-top wealthy parts of the world . . . and even then . . .
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That's why the use of the word "necessarily."
Innocent until proven guilty, right?
Even though it's very likely that Rudey is right.
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