PIKE Update

[sigtau305]

Originally posted by coastalpike
Just found out they colonized with 58 members. Pretty impressive.

Cool. Congrats.

[ladygreek]

Originally posted by coastalpike
Just found out they colonized with 58 members. Pretty impressive.

WOW!

[learning2frat]

I can't believe it. I'm so happy for PIKE this is awesome!!! That just made my day!

[jojapeach]

Originally posted by coastalpike
Just found out they colonized with 58 members. Pretty impressive.

That is impressive! Congratulations!

Originally posted by frathole
I think in the end it boils down to this:

If they're good guys, and run the chapter in the mold of a long established traditional chapter, then I'm all for it.

If its a bunch of turds or a social club with letters, then the fact we have the same letters means next to nothing.

Excellent point.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by James
I didn't get to post a serious response to the Pike at Howard thread so I figured I would take a moment to do it here.

Forgive me if I repeat what some others have written.

I think it should be clear that a NIC group, and i mean the fraternities that we can consider as traditionally white, are very different than the NPHC groups. Which means Pike represents a different kind of choice.

I know everyone realizes this, but its worth taking a moment to revisit it.

NIC groups traditionally don't have as strong a national mission as the NPHC groups.

From what I understand from this board and my friends in NPHC groups, the National character of the NPHC groups is more indoctrinated than their NIc counterparts.

The biggest difference is the emphasis on service. NIC groups are social fraternities first . . . and they do some service type activities.

My understanding of the NPHC groups I have worked with is that they are virtuallty service organizations. Service organizations that socialize.

In fact, when I ran a chapter, often we would be ten times the size of some of the NPHC groups but they would do ten times the service activities.

NIC groups exist to socialize. NPHC groups exist to serve.

I am not saying one is better than the other, just different.

Getting to my point.

I don't know what motivates the the men that want to join Pike versus an NPHC group, or just stay independant, but from the outside it looks like the members want to join a more social organization than a more service one.

I think thats an important distinction to make, because the NIC groups and the NPHC groups are not interchangeable.

This is not like they are starting a chapter of Iota Phi Theta instead of joining the Alpha Phi Alpha chapter. The NIC group is a whole 'nother animal.

This is more like people starting a school TV club instead of joining the established Radio club because their interest is similar (Communications) but still different.

Great post, James.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Train Wreck

If I had $1 for every time this has been used in this thread,

I'd be able to buy three McDonald's parfaits. I love those things.

[OhioCentaur]

Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
If I had $1 for every time this has been used in this thread,

I'd be able to buy three McDonald's parfaits. I love those things.

hahah


how about those train wreck bacon cheeseburgers they sale for a dollar...

[georgewallace3]

"sell"?

[Jill1228]

Congrats!

Originally posted by coastalpike
Just found out they colonized with 58 members. Pretty impressive.

[ladygreek]

Being a frat line of 58 strong will be an interesting dynamic at HU.

I look forward to further updates.

[33girl]

Originally posted by ladygreek
Being a frat line of 58 strong will be an interesting dynamic at HU.

I look forward to further updates.

I know Howard really can't be used as an example, but with other HBCUs with the same amount of involvement as Howard, what kind of membership numbers are there when a new chapter is started? I.e. how many charter members of the chapter are there?

[AKA_Monet]

Originally posted by 33girl
I know Howard really can't be used as an example, but with other HBCUs with the same amount of involvement as Howard, what kind of membership numbers are there when a new chapter is started? I.e. how many charter members of the chapter are there?

Most of the D9 chapters at HBCU's were probably chartered pre-80's or at least by 1990... Very few HBCU's do not allow HBGLO's--I think Oakwood College is one of them? But, I could be wrong.

[Tom Earp]

Originally posted by AKA_Monet
Most of the D9 chapters at HBCU's were probably chartered pre-80's or at least by 1990... Very few HBCU's do not allow HBGLO's--I think Oakwood College is one of them? But, I could be wrong.

Why dont HBCUs allow HBGLOs?

Seems strange to me.

I know LXA at NC A & T are doing well with I think @ 30 members but might be more.

Congratulations to PKA for the tremendous amont of work being done and the young men who started the colony.

[aopirose]

Originally posted by 33girl
I know Howard really can't be used as an example, but with other HBCUs with the same amount of involvement as Howard, what kind of membership numbers are there when a new chapter is started? I.e. how many charter members of the chapter are there?

Many moons ago, early 90's, AKA at Southern University took a class of ~140. I am a little fuzzy on the details but I think that it was a recharter. Mr. aopirose had some HS friends on that line. We were just stunned because we had never seen an NPHC take more than 30 before.

[ladygreek]

Chapters that are being reactivated tend to have large re-activation lines. That is because if a line isn't taken for say 2-3 years, you usually have a least double the normal number of interests.

ETA: And watch it! Early 90s isn't that many moons ago.