Verifying Alumnae (random question)

[Tom Earp]

Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
Is that a new GC rule?

I already answered the OP's question. You responded to something in my post and I returned the favor. Touchy touchy.

Help or Not, it is Your Option

Basically as I Stated, We as GLOs want to beleive.

Why dont You?

[Intense1920]

Yes, we verify anyone who comes to our meetings.

[KSUViolet06]

Thanks everyone for your replies.

Honestly, I don't think verification means being invasive, hostile, or mistrusful. It could be something as discrete as just checking her in the sisters-only directory. It doesn't always mean "challenging" someone with ritual info.

[JenMarie]

Any suggestions for a local organization?

I'll admit our sisters before us did not keep very good records at times so it's hard to tell when an "alumna" sister contacts someone via our website and says they were an alum way back when and would like updates. Granted they don't really come around much at all or wish to get involved. But we do send our alumnae a weekly update on the chapter. But I always feel weird adding them to the list with just their name and pledge class/year. For all I know, they quit the organization before they graduated.

[GeekyPenguin]

I think it's been checked. When I joined the first alumnae chapter I don't think anybody did because our Province Director for my collegiate chapter was in that Alumnae Chapter and knew I was initiated.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if my chapter here checked, nor would it offend me. There aren't a lot of people from my chapter here so there isn't somebody who can personally verify me.

[honeychile]

Originally posted by JenMarie
Any suggestions for a local organization?

I'll admit our sisters before us did not keep very good records at times so it's hard to tell when an "alumna" sister contacts someone via our website and says they were an alum way back when and would like updates. Granted they don't really come around much at all or wish to get involved. But we do send our alumnae a weekly update on the chapter. But I always feel weird adding them to the list with just their name and pledge class/year. For all I know, they quit the organization before they graduated.

I think you've just named an important project for your local! Does your school list affiliations in its yearbook? That would be a good place to start (outside of your records). Also, at the next Panhel meeting, ask the other sororities to ask their alumnae for some names. Check them against each other, and make sure the list is kept in at least two different places!

[KunjaPrincess]

Originally posted by JenMarie
Any suggestions for a local organization?

I'll admit our sisters before us did not keep very good records at times so it's hard to tell when an "alumna" sister contacts someone via our website and says they were an alum way back when and would like updates. Granted they don't really come around much at all or wish to get involved. But we do send our alumnae a weekly update on the chapter. But I always feel weird adding them to the list with just their name and pledge class/year. For all I know, they quit the organization before they graduated.

What about people you know are sisters for whatever reason that were in school at the same time? Can they vouch for the unsure sisters? Someone knew them right? They wouldn't necessarily have to be in the same class, a few back or forward and the members would probably at least have heard of them and may know more about the actual status.

[ladygreek]

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Help or Not, it is Your Option

Basically as I Stated, We as GLOs want to beleive.

Why dont You?

What is the problem you have with Chaos?

And no we don't just believe.

Our protocol dictates verifying membership before letting someone into a chapter meeting.

Our sorors know that and understand that, so they come prepared.

And no the grip is never used for verification.

Originally posted by ladygreek
What is the problem you have with Chaos?

And no we don't just believe.

Oh dear. It's not just Chaos. He has the same problem with everybody on GC.

[Tom Earp]

No Sweet Little Cheeks it is not with Everyone on GC, just some.



No, in an incompassomg thing, We want to Beleive.

That is Why We are so much more open for exceptance of people.

Evidentaly Some dont understand, but We try Harder than others.

[Speechpath]

We don't check everyone that comes to an alum meeting, although invitations are sent to members only. We do, however, verify membership for people who volunteer to assist chapters in any capacity. Thanks to the sisters only side of websites, I think it's easier now than it used to be to verify membership w/out having to 'challenge' people you assume are your sisters.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally posted by Tom Earp


No, in an incompassomg thing, We want to Beleive.

That is Why We are so much more open for exceptance of people.

Evidentaly Some dont understand, but We try Harder than others.

Maybe you're not understanding this properly. Let's say you "just believe" that someone is an LXA alumni, they become an advisor, and are privy to ALL of LXA's secrets. You then find out that they, in fact ARE NOT LXA. Your secrets have been divulged to a non member, and are now compromised. Not good.

As far as my sorority is concerned, ANY alumna coming into an alumnae chapter who has no one to vouch for her is verified. For example, 99% of the alumnae in the chapter in my area are all from Alpha Beta. So if you're claiming Alpha Beta, someone WILL know you or have met you at some point. If you're from a different chapter or are claiming to be an AI, you're usually verified through the directory.

Also, anyone wishing to hold ANY position in the sorority (advisor, LC, National Exec, ANYTHING), you are verified with HQ when you apply.

[kdonline]

Jocelyn, I think you're asking a question whose answer can go a couple ways:

1) with just regular alumnae meetings
2) with some sort of chapter advisory alumnae group

I know when it comes to chapter advising, the alumnae are often verified.

But when it comes to regular alumnae meetings, I think a few slip through the cracks.

The thing is, with most of the alumnae meetings I've gone to, nothing "ritual" is ever discussed. So, there's no reason to challenge anyone who comes to the meetings.

But sometimes, older ladies bring their non-KD daughters (who drive them) or other women might bring a friend who is visiting in town. A regular alumnae meeting is usually non-ritual, so there's nothing secret.

Yes, mailings only go to members. But sometimes, others hear about it. I remember one time in Miami, a woman showed up to a meeting, "Oh, I wasn't in your sorority, but I always wanted to be.." Maybe she was looking to be AI'd, but I never heard anything more about her...

In fact, some groups LIKE having non-members attend their functions. It's "more support" - like with fundraisers.

Now, on the other hand, with my KD Yahoogroup, we've started to verify members through HQ's website. We don't discuss anything ritual in the group, but we talk about issues among chapters/alumnae...sometimes personal. we expect the trust to be mutual.

HTH!

[Optimist Prime]

do they know the secret handshake?

[AlphaFrog]

I know personally, I'd rather be checked and keep it members only, then get offended about being checked and end up with non-members at meetings.