Dissing other Greeks in step shows. Good 4 greek life or bad?

[MightyQuinn]

Originally posted by NUPE4LIFE
Last summer, the Alphas at FSU did 'Trapped in the Closet'. The two gay men in the story where suppose to be both Alpha's and Ques.

I might have misread this part of your post but for some reason I'm not getting it? Help me out here.

[MightyQuinn]

The verdict is still out on this one for me but I will say this much- I would not be worrying about dissing another org at my Probate! I understand there is tension between orgs on campuses but I just don't see the Probate as a time to "get even" Come to think of it I wouldn't waste too much time at a stepshow taking digs at other organizations. Now I have been to quite a few stepshows where there was dissing all over the place and I was quite amused but I couldn't myself on the stage participating in it.

[ladygreek]

Originally posted by Pretty Kitty
When I am judging a show....
Shows with disses... suffer...on my score card....

Ditto, and I'm even harder on my own sorors when they diss. What used to be considered "funny" has become mean-spirited and crass. No need to clown someone else if you are secure in you own choice.

[OhioCentaur]

Originally posted by ladygreek
Ditto, and I'm even harder on my own sorors when they diss. What used to be considered "funny" has become mean-spirited and crass. No need to clown someone else if you are secure in you own choice.

With all respect to you and those who feel dissing is wrong i must whole heartedly disagree. I'm a neo so my experience to greek life is limited... approaching one year on 3-10-06... however i questioned why we would diss the other orgs at our pro show and the explanation given to me was for show material. We could get up there and do all our history, chants, steps and what not and it would be a great show however how much of it would stick with the crowd? The unwritten rule on Ohio State's campus is not to use names... diss the org not the individual. The alpha's used names and called people out who are in attendance and who had just crossed other orgs. That is over board in my opinion... but like a previous poster had stated... i've heard Idaho potato... Iota who.. and all the other b.s. that has been said in pro shows... i do get upset when people *uck up the Centaur but thats because i love that. I've heard some stuff said about my org that has made me cry it was so funny but i know it aint real or true or whatever... it was just funny... hahah and its over...


Times have changed and its a dog eat dog world out there...

[Senusret I]

Originally posted by OhioCentaur
... however i questioned why we would diss the other orgs at our pro show and the explanation given to me was for show material. ...

Show material?

Your prophytes are wrong. And you went along with it, and now you will teach others to do the same thing. Then five years from now, the boundaries that you think are set in stone will be pushed back until somebody's feelings get hurt or there's a fight.

It's easier to be positive, don't you think?

[OhioCentaur]

Originally posted by Senusret I
Show material?

Your prophytes are wrong. And you went along with it, and now you will teach others to do the same thing. Then five years from now, the boundaries that you think are set in stone will be pushed back until somebody's feelings get hurt or there's a fight.

It's easier to be positive, don't you think?

You make it seem like every diss is totally malicious and should ignite a war... there are things you can say and things you can do that are a "diss" and yet dont truly offend the other org...

Now it is easier to be positive that i cant deny or argue. I just see it as we had fun doin what we did and we made the crowd laugh. Then 2 weeks later when that kappa line crossed... they got us. To this day we laugh and joke about both shows and there is no anomosity between orgs based off of the pro shows...


I just find it ironic that people can have a comedy roast and all of the people around them can sound off and blast that person and its all good fun but a proshow cant take the same kinda concept?

I wont sit here in front of God and the other GCers and say our show was squeaky clean because there were personal beefs between INDIVIDUALS that had influence in some of the show.

I can however say that i gained some friends in other orgs from the show and the fact that we all can laugh at the stuff said is enough for me to say that what was done was done in good fun.

[K.O.T.S]

@ ohiocentaur

that's cool that your campus can laugh like that, but you gotta understand showmanship. if i go up there and put on a good show and in that show i diss the Iotas all people will remember is the part about the Iotas. As for during the show, as soon as i say "Iota", the attention, my org's spotlight, has went to Iota b/c the crowd wants to see/ hear the response.
i want My org to shine in the show not yours.


also, on my campus one certain sorority makes it a tradition to diss the another certain sorority at step, probate, and yard shows. needless to say, all people, greek and non greek, think negative thing about that org b/c of that even if their disses are entertaining.

lastly, it can be seen as a lack of creativity if you have to use stereotypes or mention other orgs to have a show.

[OhioCentaur]

I can respect what your saying and also say this... again i say i am only a neo... my dealings with pro shows and step shows and dissing other orgs is limited to the things i've encountered in the year i've been greek. Alot of my friends went online the same time i did and we all crossed the same year so i guess that plays a role in it.

But i guess a better question is what can be done to stop this??? If one group stops they will simply become the easiest target on the yard....

Originally posted by K.O.T.S
@ ohiocentaur

that's cool that your campus can laugh like that, but you gotta understand showmanship. if i go up there and put on a good show and in that show i diss the Iotas all people will remember is the part about the Iotas. As for during the show, as soon as i say "Iota", the attention, my org's spotlight, has went to Iota b/c the crowd wants to see/ hear the response.
i want My org to shine in the show not yours.


also, on my campus one certain sorority makes it a tradition to diss the another certain sorority at step, probate, and yard shows. needless to say, all people, greek and non greek, think negative thing about that org b/c of that even if their disses are entertaining.

lastly, it can be seen as a lack of creativity if you have to use stereotypes or mention other orgs to have a show.

[K.O.T.S]

i don't know if it needs to be stopped. i think it is more of if the orgs involved are on the same page with what is said and meant.

and as far as not responding:
concerning the two sororities i mentioned earlier, at a recent NPHC interest meeting we had, the majority of the female interests were at the table of the sorority that gets attacked and none were at the table of the sorority that does the attacking. that is response enough. i.e. we won the show you did'nt. we do not need to respond.

[marquise1911]

I see both sides. We, the greeks on my campus, get together some times and have a good ole diss-fest in the parking lot. Chants, strolls, steps...the whole nine yards. Some of the nastiest things are said and done in this time, but we know it's all in fun. My prophites warned us not to do this in the presence of the general public. They might misread some things. So as a show of unity, after every diss-fest or whatever, we shake hands and hug... It builds fellowship. I just hope in the future we could find better ways to come together.

[OhioCentaur]

Originally posted by marquise1911
I see both sides. We, the greeks on my campus, get together some times and have a good ole diss-fest in the parking lot. Chants, strolls, steps...the whole nine yards. Some of the nastiest things are said and done in this time, but we know it's all in fun. My prophites warned us not to do this in the presence of the general public. They might misread some things. So as a show of unity, after every diss-fest or whatever, we shake hands and hug... It builds fellowship. I just hope in the future we could find better ways to come together.

That sounds like fun... but anywho... there really isnt more i can say because you basically sumed it all up... I do however have a question.......


There any 12's where u at? I'm tryin to find my club nationwide... let me know if there are any 12's out that way

[marquise1911]

No... Sorry the Iotas haven't had a line with more than two individuals since 2003.

[AKA2D '91]

Originally posted by K.O.T.S

and as far as not responding:
concerning the two sororities i mentioned earlier, at a recent NPHC interest meeting we had, the majority of the female interests were at the table of the sorority that gets attacked and none were at the table of the sorority that does the attacking. that is response enough.

Interesting....

Yes, that is response enough. Unfortunately, everyone won't see it that way. You know, with the blinders and such.

[OhioCentaur]

Originally posted by marquise1911
No... Sorry the Iotas haven't had a line with more than two individuals since 2003.

I wasnt talkin just Iota... I got love for all 12's...

[marquise1911]

Originally posted by OhioCentaur
I wasnt talkin just Iota... I got love for all 12's...

I'll be posting them soon...