Gay men and lisps- potentially controversial thread - Page 2

kddani · #16 12-01-2005, 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by Sock Puppet
Me: Kettle
Danielle: Pot

Pot: "Kettle, you're black!"

But seriously, how is my question different? Can you answer it? Are female attorneys bitchy? Are stereotypes hurtful?

You're the one who is hiding behind a fake screenname. I'd at least give you some credibility if you posted under your real name. Obviously you're an active GCer under another name, so you'd likely know that no one gives sock puppets any credibility.

Why are you talking about stereotypes? Who is stereotyping?

AlphaFrog · #17 12-01-2005, 04:47 PM

Do ALL gay men have lisps??
Are ALL female attourneys bitchy??

She spesifcally said SOME.

And unless you are a gay man, why are you getting offended?

BobbyTheDon · #18 12-01-2005, 04:57 PM

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Originally posted by kddani
You're the one who is hiding behind a fake screenname. I'd at least give you some credibility if you posted under your real name. Obviously you're an active GCer under another name, so you'd likely know that no one gives sock puppets any credibility.

Why are you talking about stereotypes? Who is stereotyping?

It's Valkyrie dude. C'mon. Think about it.

I love Valkyrie. She's the shit.

Now that you know it's Valkyrie go on and fight till the death.

stuckinohio · #19 12-01-2005, 05:16 PM

wow, this thread is a little short of offensive

kddani · #20 12-01-2005, 05:19 PM

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Originally posted by stuckinohio
wow, this thread is a little short of offensive

It wasn't supposed to be offensive. I didn't make any assumptions and I was curious. I clearly stated that I knew not all gay men had a lisp.

I was curious if it was a cultural thing, or had some sort of physical connection. I didn't know, I still don't know.

If it's offensive, then please educate me.

honeychile · #21 12-01-2005, 05:25 PM

I have known (not in the Biblical sense, obviously) more than my share of gay men. The less macho of them usually lisp, the more macho ones don't. I tend to think they're showing their "role" with the lisp (or the limp wrist, etc) - or a cultural thing.

On a tangent but, the other day, I was thinking about every guy in high school and college who I either knew was gay or suspected was. Every last one of them has either died of AIDS or has HIV. Absolutely heartbreaking.

#22 12-01-2005, 05:28 PM

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Originally posted by BobbyTheDon
It's Valkyrie dude. C'mon. Think about it.

I love Valkyrie. She's the shit.

Now that you know it's Valkyrie go on and fight till the death.

I love valkyrie too. That's why I'm

that she might have filed for divorce from GC. At least she didn't proclaim that she was taking her ball and leaving the playground like some other people.

That being said, this sock puppet isn't her.

stuckinohio · #23 12-01-2005, 05:30 PM

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Originally posted by kddani
It wasn't supposed to be offensive. I didn't make any assumptions and I was curious. I clearly stated that I knew not all gay men had a lisp.

I was curious if it was a cultural thing, or had some sort of physical connection. I didn't know, I still don't know.

If it's offensive, then please educate me.

oh, honey, your or this topic is not offensive, just some of the ignorance displayed here.

I really find it hard to believe that homosexuality and lisps have any parrelel except coinsidence (sp)

kddani · #24 12-01-2005, 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by stuckinohio
oh, honey, your or this topic is not offensive, just some of the ignorance displayed here.

I really find it hard to believe that homosexuality and lisps have any parrelel except coinsidence (sp)

I'd send you a PM (private message) but you don't have private messages enabled.

stuckinohio · #25 12-01-2005, 05:40 PM

Go ahead now, i enabled it... i didnt know it was disabled

PM_Mama00 · #26 12-01-2005, 06:18 PM

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Originally posted by OTW
I love valkyrie too. That's why I'm that she might have filed for divorce from GC. At least she didn't proclaim that she was taking her ball and leaving the playground like some other people.

That being said, this sock puppet isn't her.

Woah what happened to her??

KSig RC · #27 12-01-2005, 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by stuckinohio
I find it hard to believe that homosexuality and lisps have any parrelel except coinsidence (sp)

It seems, in your efforts to be kind and accepting toward everyone, you've managed to completely ignore (completely acceptable) potential relationships.

Let's look at it like this:

1 - Do people pick up mannerisms from their friends, associates and peers? For instance, if I were to use 'word' as a response in the affirmative, do you think others around me might start to do it?

2 - Do people indicate personality traits through verbal and non-verbal communication?

3 - Are there conscious (and psuedo-conscious) 'roles' we take on to communicate attributes to others, and to prepare them for future communication?

4 - Is there the potential for group attributes and dynamics to play a role in combining 1, 2 and 3 into the formation of taking on a certain quality within a certain segment of a certain community?

Note that this has the potential to play many roles, all of which are positive:

-Communicate to others potential 'standing' within their subgroup
-Seeking out others within the same group
-Defense mechanism in identification within the group ('playing to what is accepted/popular', as it were)
-'Softening' or preparing others for later disclosure of group status, if required
-Differentiating oneself from the general community
-Including oneself within the specific community

Now, had people been applying negative stereotypical feelings (such as "i hate people who speak like stereotypical _____" or "all ______ talk like ______") then I would agree with you. But social psychology would seem to provide ample opportunity, aside from coincidence, for the behavior to take root.

I'm not sure I'm qualified to say anything beyond "it's quite possible that it is not coincidence, or even probable", however, because I'm not a social psychologist by trade.

tinydancer · #28 12-01-2005, 11:05 PM

[hijack] Didn't we have another poster named Sock Puppet? Maybe I'm just imagining that because that picture has popped up so many times before. [/hijack]

kddani · #29 12-01-2005, 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by tinydancer
[hijack] Didn't we have another poster named Sock Puppet? Maybe I'm just imagining that because that picture has popped up so many times before. [/hijack]

I think it's a difference of an underscore _

tinydancer · #30 12-01-2005, 11:11 PM

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Originally posted by kddani
I think it's a difference of an underscore _

Alrighty then. At least I know I wasn't hallucinating again.