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11-26-2005, 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by Tom Earp
Second, the Facts that Point out Cigaretts Kill is Skewed. When They test Lab Rats and inject them with chemicals, they will get cancer.
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Are you really that stupid? It is very well proven that cigarettes kill people. I refer you to the Surgeon General's latest report on smoking:
http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/sgr/sgr_2004/index.htm
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11-26-2005, 06:24 PM
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What the heck are you talking about?
The Marlboro man was a cowboy.
-Rudey
--And it's not like cigarettes are a drain on healthcare and lost GDP.
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11-26-2005, 06:55 PM
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No, I am Not THAT Really That Stupid.
The Suregeon Generals Report is Skewed Because He is an Appointed Person! Oh, Is that Polotics!
Adm. Long Sideburns COOP if Your little Young Self Remembers him said the same thing!
If You are injected with enough drugs of any kind will disrupt body functions! Oh, Maybe H2O will Kill Your ass! 
Check Risk Management about that! 
No Biotch, I am Not That Stupid are You? I am not a LAWYER and would never want to be one as I have seen enough Parasites Like You In Court!
So, Go Back to Your Little Group and attack Me some More!
I do not like to be attacked By You for Being Old, Selling Legal Products or Being a Fucking Drunkard.
You only belittle Your Self as Usual! 
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11-26-2005, 07:00 PM
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Tom, as usual, you only confirm what everyone says about you. You chide everyone for giving you a hard time, but you are incredibly nasty yourself. Since you are always harping on OTW about what AGD's international officers think of her, what would LXA be saying about your words here?
I see the medical records of people who smoke every single day in my job. I see the illnesses that it causes them. I'm in their homes taking their depositions as they lay dying.
Provide me with one single credible source that says that smoking does not cause lung cancer and a myriad of other health problems. You can't.
You sell things that directly kill people. That's your choice. But you can't deny that they do not kill people.
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11-26-2005, 08:27 PM
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Originally posted by ADqtPiMel
I'm allergic to it. I'm not hung up on it, I just enjoy breathing.
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My thoughts exaculty. I'm waiting for the day that NJ finally goes smoke free. Then maybe I can enjoy and evening out without having to head into the bathroom to take my inhaler.
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11-26-2005, 09:09 PM
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Originally posted by ktsnake
33 -- your use of flonase does not infringe upon my personal enjoyment of whatever situation I'm in. Your simplification ignores the fact that many people don't enjoy being around cigarette smoke -- actually, I don't know one single person that would claim to enjoy it.
I don't remember where I saw this, but there's a saying: Having a smoking section in a restaurant/bar is like having a peeing section in a pool.
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If smoking sections are done correctly - with actual walls and different ventilation - I would wager no one would even know they're there. Yes, it's stupid to have a smoking section separated from the rest of the restaurant by a plant. But that's the fault of the restaurant being lazy and stupid. One of my sisters redesigned the interiors for a restaurant chain around here to allow a smoking section that creates comfort for smokers AND nonsmokers. It's in the back so you don't have to walk through it and walled off properly.
I personally would much rather be around people who are smoking than make them go outside or have them curb their cravings and be impossible to be around. The whole forcing people go outside to smoke is stupid - everyone still has to walk through it because the "smoke free zones" are never enforced. Wouldn't it make more sense for office buildings, etc to have an indoor room with doors and again, separate ventilation?
And again, it's a legal substance (the main point I was making with the Flonase example), so until a law gets passed saying otherwise - tough beans. Again, despite all the antismoking zealots out there, I have yet to hear of a congressman that has introduced a bill to make it illegal.
Christopher Hitchens wrote a fantastic essay on all this for Vanity Fair about 8-10 years ago - I can't find it online, but he lays it out better than I ever could.
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11-26-2005, 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by 33girl
The majority of Americans don't take Flonase, so why don't we ban it?
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I don't recall seeing any scientific studies indicating that second hand flonase can cause Cancer. Or did I miss it somewhere.
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11-26-2005, 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by DeltAlum
I don't recall seeing any scientific studies indicating that second hand flonase can cause Cancer. Or did I miss it somewhere.
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Please read my above post. I am using the comparison as legal substance = legal substance.
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11-26-2005, 09:57 PM
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Tom you're just posting for the sake of arguing with someone. I'm a smoker and I know that smoke can kill, as well as 2nd hand smoke.
Now 2nd hand Flonase... it's obnoxious if done nearby a non-Flonase taker. I hate the smell. But then again.... I looooooove the Flonase!
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11-27-2005, 04:55 PM
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I find it interesting that the smoking debates (we just passed a ban last year in Columbus) center around "my right to smoke/not smoke".
Smokers can't light up in the office.
Smokers can't light up at the movie theater or grocery store or mall.
Smokers can't light up anywhere except certain restaurants and bars.
The reason a smoker can't light up in the office is because s/he is endagering his/her coworkers with secondhand smoke. Smokers can't light up in grocery stores or other retail establishments because it endangers their coworkers and the other patrons.
The people who work in the restaurants and bars deserve that same consideration. I worked in them for 2 years during college, and I'm sure the hours I spent in the smoking sections did wonders for my health.
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11-27-2005, 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by Tom Earp
No, I am Not THAT Really That Stupid.
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I think the grammar police would beg to differ.
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11-27-2005, 05:23 PM
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Originally posted by SilverTurtle
I find it interesting that the smoking debates (we just passed a ban last year in Columbus) center around "my right to smoke/not smoke".
Smokers can't light up in the office.
Smokers can't light up at the movie theater or grocery store or mall.
Smokers can't light up anywhere except certain restaurants and bars.
The reason a smoker can't light up in the office is because s/he is endagering his/her coworkers with secondhand smoke. Smokers can't light up in grocery stores or other retail establishments because it endangers their coworkers and the other patrons.
The people who work in the restaurants and bars deserve that same consideration. I worked in them for 2 years during college, and I'm sure the hours I spent in the smoking sections did wonders for my health.
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Restaurants and bars have a pretty powerful lobby. I personally believe that their staunch adherance to pro-smoking policies is a bit strange. I'd probably go out to more bars/clubs if I didn't have to dry clean my clothes the next day just get the smoke smell out.
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11-27-2005, 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by ktsnake
I'd probably go out to more bars/clubs if I didn't have to dry clean my clothes the next day just get the smoke smell out.
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Yes. And it's worse in the winter when you have to carry a wool coat with you that's dry-clean only. 
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11-27-2005, 08:31 PM
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Anti Tobacoa Neo-National Socialists cheese me off. That's almost as bad as when the DEA broke all those bongs in New Mexico Kristal Nacht style.
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11-28-2005, 11:33 AM
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I'm allergic to it. I'm not hung up on it, I just enjoy breathing.
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Same here.
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