The Alito Abortion Thread

[AKA_Monet]

Originally posted by hoosier
Bush voting states = we don't like abortions
Non Bush voting states = we love abortions
Alabama - death penalty for abortions
MA, MN, NY - get an abortion, collect $500

To add:

Get an abortion on demand in the 21st Century...

Priceless...



Sorry, it was just to easy to do that... But, yah, gotta say, you walked into that one...

[JenMarie]

Originally posted by jubilance1922
Being pro-choice is not saying "I don't think abortion is murder". I know women who feel that abortion is murder and would never choose that outcome for themselves, but they recognize that what's best for them isn't the best decision for ALL women. That to me is the distinction between pro-choicers and pro-lifers.

Agreed. To say that I'm "pro-choice," whether "choice" was a PR stunt or not, implies that I believe there is a choice between 2 or more options.

I can just hope that the woman with child will keep the child. But I know that's not everyone's decision and belief. So it's between the mother, father, health care provider and their respective God(s).

[Kevin]

Jen, what do you mean when you say that the father should be part of the decision?

[Rudey]

Originally posted by JenMarie
Agreed. To say that I'm "pro-choice," whether "choice" was a PR stunt or not, implies that I believe there is a choice between 2 or more options.

I can just hope that the woman with child will keep the child. But I know that's not everyone's decision and belief. So it's between the mother, father, health care provider and their respective God(s).

So you believe on the last day, in the ninth month, right before the water breaks, if there are no health problems or rape issues, that an abortion should be allowed right?

Maybe you believe that a mother should just be allowed the choice of shooting herself in the stomach with a shotgun? I mean that is a choice, and you all love the semantics and use of that word so why not?

If that is a requirement of being pro-choice, it's funny to see how many places have abortion clinics but consider late-term abortions to be illegal, criminal, and repugnant.

-Rudey

[Optimist Prime]

I'm opposed to both spousal and parental notification laws, mostly on the basis of abuse.

[texas*princess]

Maybe this has already been addressed, but what IF a woman was raped and concieved a child in the process. Would she need permission from the rapist to get an abortion? What if he is never found? Or would that permission only apply if the woman was married?

I don't know the specifics on this proposal/issue so I'm just curious how something like this would play out.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by texas*princess
Maybe this has already been addressed, but what IF a woman was raped and concieved a child in the process. Would she need permission from the rapist to get an abortion? What if he is never found? Or would that permission only apply if the woman was married?

I don't know the specifics on this proposal/issue so I'm just curious how something like this would play out.

Yeah good question. How come nobody asked this yet?

I'm not sure. I think she should ask the rapist for permission. Wait, I don't know. I can't decide.

-Rudey

[KSigkid]

Sandra Day O'Connor was a Goldwater Republican before she was chosen for the Supreme Court.

Just an example that people's attitudes and records can change over time...

[hoosier]

Byrd shocks the world

Alito has the votes of the 55 Republicans in the 100-member chamber enough to be put over the top when West Virginia's Byrd and Johnson of South Dakota joined Nebraska's Ben Nelson in saying they'll vote yes.

[WCUgirl]

DELETE.

[Rudey]

Mountains out of molehills.

There is a probability it will get overturned but there is also a probability for aliens eating your brains out. Even if it was overturned, there is a $5 OTC medicine you can take that gives you a quick and cheap abortion. And the best part is, it will be a state issue and not a national one, thus taking religion off the national stage.

-Rudey

Originally posted by AXiD670
South Dakota bill meant to challenge Roe v. Wade

South Dakota Senate passes abortion ban bill
Bill meant as a challenge to Roe v. Wade

Thursday, February 23, 2006; Posted: 1:25 a.m. EST (06:25 GMT)

PIERRE, South Dakota (AP) -- Legislation meant to prompt a national legal battle targeting Roe v. Wade, the 1973 Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion, was approved Wednesday by the South Dakota Senate, moving the bill a step closer to final passage.

The measure, which would ban nearly all abortions in the state, now returns to the House, which passed a different version earlier. The House must decide whether to accept changes made by the Senate, which passed its version 23-12.

"It is the time for the South Dakota Legislature to deal with this issue and protect the lives and rights of unborn children," said Democratic Sen. Julie Bartling, the bill's main sponsor.

The bill, carrying a penalty of up to five years in prison, would make it a felony for doctors or others to perform abortions.

Bartling and other supporters noted that the recent appointment of Justices John Roberts and Samuel Alito make the Supreme Court more likely to consider overturning Roe v. Wade.

[jubilance1922]

Originally posted by Rudey
Mountains out of molehills.

There is a probability it will get overturned but there is also a probability for aliens eating your brains out. Even if it was overturned, there is a $5 OTC medicine you can take that gives you a quick and cheap abortion. And the best part is, it will be a state issue and not a national one, thus taking religion off the national stage.

-Rudey

What drug is that? RU-486 requires a prescription and Plan B doesn't induce an abortion. Is there some new drug out there?

[jubilance1922]

Originally posted by AXiD670
South Dakota bill meant to challenge Roe v. Wade

South Dakota Senate passes abortion ban bill
Bill meant as a challenge to Roe v. Wade

Thursday, February 23, 2006; Posted: 1:25 a.m. EST (06:25 GMT)

PIERRE, South Dakota (AP) -- Legislation meant to prompt a national legal battle targeting Roe v. Wade, the 1973 Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion, was approved Wednesday by the South Dakota Senate, moving the bill a step closer to final passage.

The measure, which would ban nearly all abortions in the state, now returns to the House, which passed a different version earlier. The House must decide whether to accept changes made by the Senate, which passed its version 23-12.

"It is the time for the South Dakota Legislature to deal with this issue and protect the lives and rights of unborn children," said Democratic Sen. Julie Bartling, the bill's main sponsor.

The bill, carrying a penalty of up to five years in prison, would make it a felony for doctors or others to perform abortions.

Bartling and other supporters noted that the recent appointment of Justices John Roberts and Samuel Alito make the Supreme Court more likely to consider overturning Roe v. Wade.

Since they are so committed to protecting the children in South Dakota, I hope that their legislature also allocates more funding for healthcare, education and family services. Since they want to help the children...

[Rudey]

Originally posted by jubilance1922
What drug is that? RU-486 requires a prescription and Plan B doesn't induce an abortion. Is there some new drug out there?

It's not made for abortions, it just induces it. I can't remember the name off the top of my head but will post it when I do. It's something like $5 and there was a report about its high use by teenagers and how abortion laws really couldn't change the reality because of pills like this.

-Rudey

[jubilance1922]

Originally posted by Rudey
It's not made for abortions, it just induces it. I can't remember the name off the top of my head but will post it when I do. It's something like $5 and there was a report about its high use by teenagers and how abortion laws really couldn't change the reality because of pills like this.

-Rudey

When you get the name please post it. I'm intriguied.