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Old 10-28-2005, 07:01 AM
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uhhhh, that had nothing to with my comment. but coming from someone who constantly makes blanket statements about race like it's going out of style, i find it quite ironic that someone with his mental capacities would take the time to actually try and analyze the article.
Earlier in the thread you said "*waiting for someone to say*
'those people who voted are idiots, and aren't real americans. they don't know the REAL truth behind everything,' followed by "right on cue." I thus thought that the second statement went back to the first.
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Old 10-28-2005, 10:39 AM
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Yes, the Congressional Democrats' approval rating was omitted, but as you said, so was the Republicans'.

Why did they omit this from the front page? Probably because the president's approval rating (as opposed to the Congressional ratings) was more of a selling point, rather than because of a political bias - hell, if the editors were just trying to push the Democratic party, why wouldn't they try to show that the Democrats' approval rating was higher than the Republicans'?

Democratic approval rating conveniently omitted? Conveniently placed where it belongs - next to its match, the Republican approval rating.
The meat of this discussion is that the results for congressmen (both Dem and GOP) is lower than for Bush. The article was manipulated into an anti-Bush piece.
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Old 10-28-2005, 11:57 AM
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The meat of this discussion is that the results for congressmen (both Dem and GOP) is lower than for Bush. The article was manipulated into an anti-Bush piece.
Actually, the topic of the thread -- and the lead of the article quoted are about the President's approval ratings. Congress is a separate issue, which is addressed in a different part of the survey.

If you were sitting in the editors chair -- and being unbiased, which is not one of your stronger points -- you would lead with the President's numbers as well because that's what the American public is more interested in.

It is also part of the overall situation in Washington at the moment, where the administration is suffering from a number of fairly large alleged mistakes, many of which they brought upon themselves.

The media didn't make up the leaking of a CIA operative's identity, or the lack of WMD and the poor response to natural disasters. They reported them.

It wasn't the media that attacked President Bush's nominee to the Supreme Court -- it was members of his own party and constituency (have no idea how that word is spelled).

The Administration doesn't need the help of what you keep annoyingly calling the media wing of the Democratic Party to get into trouble -- they're doing fine all by themselves. Of course, the GOP isn't the first to do that. The Democrats have done just as well in times in the past. And that same media reported all of that as well.
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Old 10-28-2005, 12:14 PM
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Earlier in the thread you said "*waiting for someone to say*
'those people who voted are idiots, and aren't real americans. they don't know the REAL truth behind everything,' followed by "right on cue." I thus thought that the second statement went back to the first.
Damn, you're right!


-- they didn't mention Jaques Chirac's approval rating and other equally as relevant facts and figures either.
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Old 10-28-2005, 12:48 PM
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Earlier in the thread you said "*waiting for someone to say*
'those people who voted are idiots, and aren't real americans. they don't know the REAL truth behind everything,' followed by "right on cue." I thus thought that the second statement went back to the first.

and?

you were wrong.
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Old 10-28-2005, 12:50 PM
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The first person to mention race in this thread is you sir. The argument that Hoosier is trying to make is that CNN is the media wing of the vast left wing conspiracy.

I believe I and others have proceded to say that we are highly skeptical as to his allegation, and further, we find that the story you origanally posted would be news no matter who posted it. Such polls are taken on a regular basis (relevant in this case because the poll was most likely not funded by Moveon.org), and when one dips to historical or notable lows, it's news.

Since CNN pays part of the cost in conducting the poll on a regular basis no matter who the President is, who could possibly make a case for them not publishing this information?
i mentioned it because i felt like it, and used it to illustrate his knack of making a blanket statement. i didn't use it to correlate anything into the actual discussion itself.
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Old 10-28-2005, 11:46 PM
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The people who voted were idoiots. They're the same freaking idoits who never use turn signals.

Everyone in congress should be shot.
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Old 10-29-2005, 03:06 AM
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The people who voted were idoiots. They're the same freaking idoits who never use turn signals.

Everyone in congress should be shot.
Go back to sleep, OP.
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