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Old 09-29-2005, 06:28 PM
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This appears to be another case where some known conservative mentioned black people, abortion, and crime in one sentence, and enemies try to make some huge thing out of it. These people operate the PC police.

These enemies, the PC police, care not that he fully declared that it was not his desire, and said that it would be reprehensible. No apology is ever accepted. Resignation is the only acceptable response.

Decent people listen and consider the whole thought, and ignore the PC police who are running amuck - on this forum, on campus, and in the media branch of the Democratic party.

Al and his Air America buddies - assuming they will be able to pay their bills and stay on the air for another day - will have a field day.

On the other hand, if Jesse or Farraquan or Byrd make some anti-semetic or biased comment (remember hymey town?, remember the bombs under the NO levies?) the PC police and their media wing sweep it under the rug.
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Old 09-29-2005, 06:41 PM
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On the other hand, if Jesse or Farraquan or Byrd make some anti-semetic or biased comment (remember hymey town?, remember the bombs under the NO levies?) the PC police and their media wing sweep it under the rug.
What does "hymey town" and "bombs under the NO levies" mean?

I've never heard of whatever those are so so can someone enlighten me. Just trying to make a connection between that and the OP.
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Old 09-29-2005, 11:01 PM
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Oh My God @ the audio clip of this man's statement.

I don't care what you (and the you's know who I am referring to) say in defense of this guy, there is no reason under the SUN for him to have even mentioned anything about black babies in that particular discussion. No reason whatsoever. All he did was express his view that there is an automatic correlation between black people and crime. I know that is how plenty of people feel in this country, so whatever, but I don't want to hear any uproar when people like Kanye and others come out with their opinions either.
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Old 09-29-2005, 11:05 PM
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Sidebar: Considering the fact that crime has gone down (http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/gazette/2...istics-fbi.php) , but poverty has gone up (http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/pover...4/pov04hi.html), is it safe to say the poor aren't the ones committing the most crimes?
Actually, no - global decreases in crime can come from a variety of sources. The real test would be whether the percentage of total crimes committed by the impoverished has dropped versus previous - this would imply (although not prove) causation.
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Old 09-29-2005, 11:13 PM
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I don't care what you (and the you's know who I am referring to) say in defense of this guy, there is no reason under the SUN for him to have even mentioned anything about black babies in that particular discussion.
If you're talking about me, we have some things to discuss.
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Old 09-29-2005, 11:18 PM
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On the other hand, if Jesse or Farraquan or Byrd make some anti-semetic or biased comment (remember hymey town?, remember the bombs under the NO levies?) the PC police and their media wing sweep it under the rug.
I'm sorry but I haven't seen that many people defending that hatemongering a**hole Luis FarraKhan and nor his f**ked up diatribes. It's relatively simple to call a f*cking bigot a bigot when you drop the party politics... try it some time.
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Old 09-30-2005, 03:19 AM
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If the poor became middle class there might be less crime also . . but its easier to kill babies.
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Old 09-30-2005, 11:23 AM
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Old 09-30-2005, 11:36 AM
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If the poor became middle class there might be less crime also . . but its easier to kill babies.
The first part is a good idea, if near impossible.....

The EASY thing to do is very often not the RIGHT thing to do.
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Old 09-30-2005, 12:34 PM
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If you're talking about me, we have some things to discuss.
No we don't.
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Old 09-30-2005, 12:37 PM
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No we don't.
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Old 09-30-2005, 12:39 PM
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http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/...nts/index.html

Bennett under fire for remarks on blacks, crime

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Congressional Democrats blasted former Education Secretary William Bennett on Thursday for saying that aborting "every black baby in this country" would reduce the crime rate, and demanded their Republican counterparts do the same.

"This is precisely the kind of insensitive, hurtful and ignorant rhetoric that Americans have grown tired of," said Rep. Bobby Rush, D-Illinois.

Bennett, who held prominent posts in the administrations of former presidents Ronald Reagan and George Bush, told a caller to his syndicated radio talk show Wednesday: "If you wanted to reduce crime, you could -- if that were your sole purpose -- you could abort every black baby in this country and your crime rate would go down.

"That would be an impossibly ridiculous and morally reprehensible thing to do, but your crime rate would go down," he said.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-California, called on President Bush to condemn the comments by Bennett, who was anti-drug chief in Bush's father's administration.

"What could possibly have possessed Secretary Bennett to say those words, especially at this time?" Pelosi asked. "What could he possibly have been thinking? This is what is so alarming about his words."

Bennett stood by his comments Thursday night.

"I was putting forward a hypothetical proposition. Put that forward. Examined it. And then said about it that it's morally reprehensible. To recommend abortion of an entire group of people in order to lower your crime rate is morally reprehensible. But this is what happens when you argue that the ends can justify the means," he told CNN.

"I'm not racist, and I'll put my record up against theirs," referring to Pelosi and other critics. "I've been a champion of the real civil rights issue of our times -- equal educational opportunities for kids."

"We've got to have candor and talk about these things while we reject wild hypotheses," Bennett said.

"I don't think people have the right to be angry, if they look at the whole thing. But if they get a selective part of my comment, I can see why they would be angry. If somebody thought I was advocating that, they ought to be angry. I would be angry."

"But that's not what I advocate."

Asked if he owed people an apology, Bennett replied, "I don't think I do. I think people who misrepresented my view owe me an apology."

Bennett served as Reagan's chairman of the National Endowment for the Humanities from 1981-1985 and secretary of education from 1985-1988. From 1989-1990, he served as "drug czar" in the administration of the elder Bush.

Rush called on "my friends, the responsible Republicans" to rebuke the former Cabinet official by backing a House resolution condemning his remarks as "outrageous racism of the most bigoted and ignorant kind."

"Where is the indignation from the GOP, as one of their prominent members talk about aborting an entire race of Americans as a way of ridding this country of crime?" asked Rush, a former Black Panther. "How ridiculous! How asinine! How insane can one be?"

He called instead for "aborting" Republican policies "which have hurt the disadvantaged, the poor, average Americans for the benefit of large corporations."

Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid said he was "appalled" by Bennett's remarks.

"The Republican Party has recently taken great pains to reach out to the African-American community, and I hope that they will be swift in condemning Mr. Bennett's comments as nothing short of callous and ignorant," said Reid, D-Nevada.

And Bruce Gordon, president and CEO of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, demanded an apology from Bennett and the Salem Radio Network, which airs his radio program.

"In 2005, there is no place for the kind of racist statement made by Bennett," Gordon said in a written statement. "While the entire nation is trying to help survivors, black and white, to recover from the damage caused by Hurricanes Katrina and Rita, it is unconscionable for Bennett to make such ignorant and insensitive comments."

A man who answered the phone at the network said no one would be available to comment until Friday.

Bennett's 1993 repackaging of traditional morality tales, "The Book of Virtues," became a bestseller, and Bennett became a popular lecturer on moral issues. But in 2003, stung by news reports that he had lost millions of dollars in Las Vegas and Atlantic City over the last decade, he publicly renounced gambling and vowed to stay away from the slots from then on.

He is a Fox News contributor and chairman of "Americans for Victory over Terrorism," which his Web site calls "a project dedicated to sustaining and strengthening public opinion as the war on terrorism moves forward."
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Old 09-30-2005, 12:48 PM
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If we aborted EVERY baby [read Black, white, pink, green, whatever] then the crime rate would go down. Less people born =less criminals born........period.

His including the race part just made it a soundbite (and either displayed his own prejudices or reliance on statistics which may or may not be accurate that tell us that Black Americans commit more crimes when in actuality we really just get prosecuted and investigated more vigorously).
I "agree". Black folks don't commit more crimes. They are just prosecuted for more crimes by racist law enforcement. We should abort all the white people. Then we would have a great economy, free of crime, like in Africa.


Why was the Black family the first family eliminated from The Amazing Race?

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Old 09-30-2005, 12:57 PM
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Do any of you really, seriously, and honestly believe that this man could have it in his heart to kill black babies or do you believe he made a comment that upsets people?

Obviously it's not the first given what he said in the same discussion:

''But I do know that it's true that if you wanted to reduce crime, you could, if that were your sole purpose, you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down,'' said Bennett, author of ''The Book of Virtues.''

He went on to call that ''an impossible, ridiculous and morally reprehensible thing to do, but your crime rate would go down.

I'm still waiting for someone to discuss the proven link of abortions among the poor and lowered crime. Is that classist/elitist even if it's true? If you replace poor with black is that racist?

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Old 09-30-2005, 12:58 PM
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I "agree". Black folks don't commit more crimes. They are just prosecuted for more crimes by racist law enforcement. We should abort all the white people. Then we would have a great economy, free of crime, like in Africa.


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