Bad Press...

[Tom Earp]

DO TWIT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT?

Why do school papers think they get get away with the same thing as the grocery store rags?

Who is the Advisor of the crap. He should be banned. If they think it is funny, wait tell a Lawyer, Yes a Lawyer knocks on the door!

They are Ijiots and should be treated as such!

[Coramoor]

It would be nice to change the images...but honestly, how many greeks out there would stick such a change through?

On my campus they have the initial reaction and that lasts for like a week, and then they get bored and forget about it. I think we could easily change the stereotypes, or at least show what we are really about, but most greeks don't have the desire to really follow through with it. Too much energy that they could spend doing something else....like making shirts or something.

[sugar and spice]

Originally posted by valkyrie
One of the most valuable lessons in life is learning to be comfortable with oneself.

The thing is, if you're comfortable with yourself, you don't need to bitch about how other people are insecure and basically mindless drones conforming to some BS standard.

Word.

Now, to be honest, I don't have a huge problem with much of what's said in this article. I agree absolutely that there are many sorority women out there who throw themselves into Greek culture to mask their insecurities. Where I think the problem lies is the fact that the author feels so superior to these women. We all have our ways of dealing with our insecurities that may not be so healthy . . . like, oh, writing columns bashing others in our student newspapers?

Also, his insinuation that just because someone is attractive and well-dressed, they must be insecure? Is silly and misguided.

I'm surprised that the sorority women got so upset about this -- to me, it's not worth getting upset over. However, I'm happy that they're out there doing something to counteract this rather than just being complacent about the whole deal.

And Firehouse, the writer of the article is a conservative, not a liberal.

[Kevin]

Originally posted by sugar and spice

And Firehouse, the writer of the article is a conservative, not a liberal.

Nah, just that he was part of the preparations for a Young Republicans event.

1) That doesn't mean he's a member

2) That doesn't mean he's a conservative.

-- No party is really conservative anymore. This article doesn't give me a clue either way to the fella's political leanings other than that he's a tool.

[sugar and spice]

Originally posted by ktsnake
Nah, just that he was part of the preparations for a Young Republicans event.

1) That doesn't mean he's a member

2) That doesn't mean he's a conservative.

-- No party is really conservative anymore. This article doesn't give me a clue either way to the fella's political leanings other than that he's a tool.

The other articles he's written do.

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by ktsnake
Nah, just that he was part of the preparations for a Young Republicans event.

1) That doesn't mean he's a member

2) That doesn't mean he's a conservative.

-- No party is really conservative anymore. This article doesn't give me a clue either way to the fella's political leanings other than that he's a tool.

Did you read his other articles?!

[valkyrie]

Junior chemistry major Daniel Underwood says all of his science classes teach atheistic assumptions about the origin of life and the universe, but nothing about a divine creator. However, Underwood says that is just one aspect of the pervasive anti-Christian bias on display at NC State. "There's a marginalization of anyone who holds any sort of religious views firmly," says Underwood, who is a born-again Christian.

He recalls an incident last semester in which a professor asked a guest speaker not to mention the name of "Jesus" while addressing his "Social Deviance" class. Professor Robert Stone, the student says, made the request after ex-convict John Kinlaw told the class that his life had dramatically changed after he abandoned a life of crime to follow Jesus Christ.

Underwood, who wrote a column about the incident for the student newspaper, believes that Stone -- like many others on campus -- is uncomfortable with born-again Christians.

"This particular professor had his own animosity toward Christianity in particular," Underwood says, "but I think generally speaking, professors and teaching faculty are much more embracing of any religion other than Christianity -- and particularly, Islam."

In fact, Underwood believes if Kinlaw had said his life changed dramatically because he began praying to Allah, Stone would not have censored him.

In writing the column, the junior says he wanted to warn his fellow students about what is happening on campus. "I really wanted to stress to the students that they should be on guard against this, and try to take notice when their teachers may be doing things similar to what [Professor Stone] did," he says.

[valkyrie]

He's also the webmaster for the College Republicans.

Just call me valkyrie, interweb detective.

[sugar and spice]

Originally posted by valkyrie

In writing the column, the junior says he wanted to warn his fellow students about what is happening on campus.

JESUS WOULDN'T USE A CAMPUS NEWSPAPER COLUMN TO PREACH HATRED OF SOROSTITUTES.

[Firehouse]

Valkyrie, you seem to be right, and I appear to be completely wrong.

[valkyrie]

LOL that's cool. This is fun. Here are more words of wisdom:

Just when I thought the liberal Democrats could not get any worse, they manage to surprise me.

Instead of simply being led by sheer raving lunatics, attracting all sorts of anti-American lowlifes as constituents, and just generally being opposed to America's self-interests, they have achieved a new low -- they are now the proud owners of a one Sen. Dick Durbin. Yes, the democratic senator from Illinois, Durbin, has finally come out and said exactly what the Democratic Party has been poised to say for a long time now: Sen. Durbin admitted his hatred for America's armed forces -- you know, the guys that kind of keep people like Durbin from being beheaded by savage Islamofascist terrorists?

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by sugar and spice
JESUS WOULDN'T USE A CAMPUS NEWSPAPER COLUMN TO PREACH HATRED OF SOROSTITUTES.

That's because Jesus was down with Mary M.

(I go to a Catholic school, so I know.)

[moe.ron]

Originally posted by valkyrie
"This particular professor had his own animosity toward Christianity in particular," Underwood says, "but I think generally speaking, professors and teaching faculty are much more embracing of any religion other than Christianity -- and particularly, Islam."

In fact, Underwood believes if Kinlaw had said his life changed dramatically because he began praying to Allah, Stone would not have censored him.

What the hell does Islam have to do with the professor asking the guy not to mention Jesus? This guy is very paranoid.

[Speechpath]

Originally posted by ADqtPiMel
I think the rally response was awesome. If someone at my school called me a sorostitute, I'd sure as hell be out there protesting.

They did not however get the desired good press at the rally. You can read the letters to the editor in today's Technician and see that quite clearly. I do think a response was warranted but not sure that specific one did what the greek community wanted it to do.

[PhoenixAzul]

Quote from the editor:

Although Eder said he expected a response from the column, he, like Underwood, said he did not anticipate a reaction of this magnitude.He said he did not hesitate publishing Underwood's work on Friday because it accomplished the goal of a column.

"He wrote about something that he saw and that already existed before he wrote it. Any good columnist is a keen observer of human behavior, and I think that's important -- that's exactly what he did," Eder said.

Despite negative feedback, Eder said he thinks something positive will come of the column.

"Daniel's column initiated a lot of discussion and dialogue with things that needed to be said and needed to be heard," Eder said. "That is the first step in positive change coming about."

A KEEN OBSERVER OF HUMAN BEHAVIOR?!?! Excuse me?! If by keen observer you mean stereotyping and shallow, then why yes, absolutely.

THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE SAID? It needed to be said that sorority women are mindless prostitutes and Stepford wives??? Somehow I don't think that's as important as covering stories on your campus finances and other things that NEED to be said. No one NEEDED to say that.

and the only positive change I can see coming from this article is that this Underwood fellow realizes that his articles are poorly written and pointless (journalism major here) and smack of misogyny and racism as well as a pandering disreguard for the viewpoints of others. He screams that he wants people to accept this Christian point of view that he has...but refuses to be as accepting of other viewpoints (somehow that seems...uh...UnChristian to me).