Dubya takes 1 yr vacation? - Page 2

copacabana · #16 08-30-2005, 03:28 PM

I totally agree. Seriously, if the US was attacked when Bush was "vacationing" on his ranch in Texas, does that mean that wouldn't be able to address the nation until his vacation is over? Absoloutely not. Being president is a 24/7, high stress job and if he wants to go to Texas for a few weeks to work and enjoy the atmosphere of his ranch, it's fine by me.

LightBulb · #17 09-01-2005, 02:17 PM

Ho-ly-crap.

I understand the need to unwind, but that just seems a bit excessive.

ONE YEAR???

KSigkid · #18 09-01-2005, 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by LightBulb
Ho-ly-crap.

I understand the need to unwind, but that just seems a bit excessive.

ONE YEAR???

But that's the thing, he's not unwinding, he's doing his job from a different location.

Tickled Pink 2 · #19 09-01-2005, 09:42 PM

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If she kept her mouth shut, then she couldn't be a Monica, now, could she?

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I knew when I posted that - I would regret it....

Tickled Pink 2 · #20 09-01-2005, 09:57 PM

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Originally posted by LexiKD
"The state that our country is in...taking a year off"

I really do think some of us need to stop allowing the "news" to do our thinking for us.

I really do think that we can have a decent discussion w/o personal attacks.

No one thinks for me. I listen to/ read/ watch the news and I formulate my own opinion from there.

As intelligent adults with obviously 2 different point of views - can we simply say what we feel about the situation and leave it at that??

LexiKD · #21 09-01-2005, 11:05 PM

The situation is not two sided. The TRUTH is presidents do not take vacations. Just b/c some news story tries to make it seem like air force one picked up and left without as much as forwarding calls is crazy.

As for personal attacks I think if any of us had thin skin we wouldn't be here.

Tickled Pink 2 · #22 09-02-2005, 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by LexiKD
The situation is not two sided. The TRUTH is presidents do not take vacations. Just b/c some news story tries to make it seem like air force one picked up and left without as much as forwarding calls is crazy.

As for personal attacks I think if any of us had thin skin we wouldn't be here.

Truth: A statement proven to be or accepted as true.

Opinion: A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof.

The TRUTH is neither one of us really knows what he does on vacation because we are not there - so all we can do is formulate an opinion. Yes, he may be able to receive calls, but does he do more or less work when he's in Tx? So no - your false dichotomy is not TRUTH.

And thin skin? Lol. Please. The real question is are you able to express your opinion w/o arguing Ad hominen?

LexiKD · #23 09-02-2005, 09:22 AM

The main problem in this country is we all think we have to be politically correct, walking on eggshells so we do not hurt someone's feelings. Maybe if we spent more time doing the right things instead of wasting time we wouldn't have these kind of issues to talk about.
The fact is if President Bush was on vaction and couldn't do the same duties on the ranch that he does in DC then he wouldn't be there. If he was on "vacation" and wasn't doing a thing then nothing would be getting done, which isn't true the same govermental duties are his responsibility no matter where he his or what he is doing.
The main problem with this is that his office should be respected. I respect our Presidents and don't think nit picking is really patriotic. Crazy comments on how many days he is n Texas on "vacation" hasn't really got to do with anything important unless he is not doing his job and I don't consider a bike ride shrugging responsibilities.
And that is all I will say about that.

Rudey · #24 09-02-2005, 11:02 AM

It's more of a problem to see lower level politicians taking breaks because a lot of them just decide to skip votes and meetings and go eat at fancy restaurants with lobbyists.

-Rudey

LexiKD · #25 09-02-2005, 11:09 AM

I agree rudey.
I didn't hear anyone up in arms when Sen Edwards didn't even finish his first term and now gets 100% retirement for the rest of his life. So we paid him to go on the road and now we pay him 200,000+ for the rest of his life and when he dies his wife will most likly get it.

No matter how you feel about a President they deserve respect and a bike ride hear and there.

Tickled Pink 2 · #26 09-02-2005, 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by LexiKD
The main problem in this country is we all think we have to be politically correct, walking on eggshells so we do not hurt someone's feelings.

Really - that's what you think the main problem is, do you?

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Originally posted by LexiKD Maybe if we spent more time doing the right things instead of wasting time we wouldn't have these kind of issues to talk about.

WE is a word used collectively. So, by WE you are being self-inclusive.

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Originally posted by LexiKD The fact is if President Bush was on vaction and couldn't do the same duties on the ranch that he does in DC then he wouldn't be there. If he was on "vacation" and wasn't doing a thing then nothing would be getting done, which isn't true the same govermental duties are his responsibility no matter where he his or what he is doing.

You didn't even see the program, did you? Who said he wasn't doing a thing? The question is - is he doing as much as he could. 2 different people were on there that expressed 2 different views -who didn't argue ad hominem.

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Originally posted by LexiKD The main problem with this is that his office should be respected. I respect our Presidents and don't think nit picking is really patriotic. Crazy comments on how many days he is n Texas on "vacation" hasn't really got to do with anything important unless he is not doing his job and I don't consider a bike ride shrugging responsibilities.
And that is all I will say about that.

1st - you're obviously a Bush supporter - so we're not going to agree on this or probably any other thing about him. Not liking the job that he is doing and not respecting him are 2 totally different things. Nit picking is saying he should never take a day off. In my opinion, over 300 days is excessive - working vacation or not. And as far as I'm concerned - he's not doing his job to the best of his ability. Patriotism is the love of one's country. I don't think those that don't agree with Bush don't like their country, we just don't like the job that he was doing. And given the past week - I reeeaaallly don't like the job that he is doing now. Oh - and if you're wondering - I was one of those "crazy" "Vote or Die" people that voted & urged everyone to vote as well. Trying to ensure who I believe is the best person is in office so that my country will not continue to be torn apart - That's patriotic.

LexiKD · #27 09-02-2005, 05:58 PM

It amazes that someone who began with such thin skin could end up personally attacking anyone.

By the way no matter who I voted for I support this country and who we as a nation elected. By WE I mean all of us. And yes all of us including me spend usless energy to fight about madness. Who cares how many days any President will be out of DC. Soon there will be a report of all Presidents and how many they took and then those will be disputed as well...on going.

So that your country will not continue to tear apart? Come on.

As a poll worker I enjoy seeing peolpe getting the word out in turn getting more to the polls and b/c of that I support who we as a nation elected. And I do think nit picking is disrespectful.

What difference does it make anyway you have made up your mind. In no way am I trying to have some sort of cat fight but it always ends up that way.

Although I am addicted to this I will make an effort not to post again on this subject.

Tickled Pink 2 · #28 09-02-2005, 07:58 PM

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Originally posted by LexiKD
It amazes that someone who began with such thin skin could end up personally attacking anyone.

LOL. Again - no other way to prove your point or express your opposing opinion without an ad hominem argument. Bravo. Read carefully through my replies - there hasn't been a personal attack on you, but I questioned what you said without questioning who was thinking for you or eluding that your comments were unpatriotic or "crazy". In fact - I don't think they were crazy - as I stated before - they were just your opinions. Not facts or truth. You have yours & I have mine.

In reference to this "thin skin" that you keep referencing - no dear - I don't have thin skin - however when it comes to those expressing different political ideas other than yourself - you certainly seem to.

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Originally posted by LexiKD
Although I am addicted to this I will make an effort not to post again on this subject.

Now, let's test that theory.

DeltAlum · #29 09-03-2005, 12:42 PM

It costs we taxpayers a lot of extra money for the President to "do his job" on "working vacations" outside the White House.