Legacy concern @ Nebraska - Page 2

LionTamer · #16 08-26-2005, 09:55 AM

I understand not wanting to waste a preference spot on someone who is likely to end up elsewhere, but it's hard to make assumptions about someone's fit just because they have a blood sister somewhere.

When I was at school, I saw:

- a calm younger sister wisely avoid her wild older sister's (very strong) sorority in order to distance herself from the wild one's behavior and reputation

- a calm younger sister joing her crazy/wild older sister's sorority and be very happy because the sorority had changed so much in the 5 years in between

- a wild younger sister end up absolutely miserable in her prim, perfect older sister's "top 2" sorority (made everyone there miserable as well)

- two very different fraternal twin sisters both very happy in the same sorority

How does one sorority's cutting a girl makes any difference to other sororities, legacy or not? If you don't fit in at ASA, that has nothing to do with how you get along at AXO. We used to cut some truly A+ great girls because we knew they'd be miserable with us and much happier elsewhere.

Lindz928 · #17 08-26-2005, 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by LionTamer
How does one sorority's cutting a girl makes any difference to other sororities, legacy or not?

Basic answer... It doesn't. Or at least, it SHOULDN'T.

adpiucf · #18 08-26-2005, 10:51 AM

At my university, PNM's indicate their legacy sororities on their recruitment application. One copy of the app goes to each sorority house, and the legacy information is blacked out on that copy if the PNM isn't a legacy to your sorority.

Human error does occur, and sometimes chapters learn who's a legacy because they got the wrong xerox.

Also, Panhellenic relations are very strong among the chapters. It is well known if an in-house or direct legacy is coming through.

The chapters observe silence at recruitment and don't communicate with the outside world. "Things" do happen, however-- perhaps an ABC and an XYZ are roommates and talk... or an XYZ legacy goes to the ABC party and reveals she was dropped by her legacy house.

While a PNM's invites should have no bearing on each other, it isn't a stretch to speculate that if a chaper dropped an in-house direct legacy and that becomes known to the other sororities ... that could lead to the assumption that she might be of questionable character... especially if her sister is still active at the chapter.

I think it is an entirely different story if the legacy drops her legacy house.

I can't recall us ever cutting a direct legacy. I do recall our chapter adviser's daughter being cut by ADPi when she attended her mother's university. It happens. Don't recall if she joined a sorority. I also remember a step-sister of a member being cut at our chapter. She wasn't technically a "legacy," however, because she was a step-sister. She had a competitive recruitment.

One of my chapter sisters was a direct in-house legacy. Her sister was well-liked and well-known in the Greek Community, and had many friends in other chapters. These friends loved her younger sister and were excited for her to go through recruitment. They were horrified when their chapters cut the sister in the first round-- so sure were those other sororities that the younger sister would join ADPi-- even though the PNM's intent had been the total opposite-- she did not want to join her sister's sorority. At prefs however, she realized she wanted ADPi and was literally crying at the idea of getting a bid anywhere else!

ETA- I don't think one chapter's cuts should bear weight on any other chapter's decisions in recruitment, but it all goes back to the human factor in the recruitment process.

Lindz928 · #19 08-26-2005, 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by adpiucf
I can't recall us ever cutting a direct legacy.

I can't remember us doing this either. But I have to say that there were one or two times that we would have liked to.

OtterXO · #20 08-26-2005, 12:59 PM

I agree with loving to steal legacies from other chapters! At my school we had a fair amount of legacies, but definitely not a lot of them. One girl in my chapter was a triple legacy to another house and she pledged Chi-O...we loved her anyway, but it was awesome and an extra enjoyment to steal a triple-leg!

To address the other issue in this thread, I think it depends on the campus as to whether you would get cut for being a legacy to another house. At my school we looked at it as a positive attribute because the girl was familiar with greek life and would likely make a strong active member. However, if a girl had ever told me to "not bother rushing her" because she was a leg to another house I would have just probably stopped the conversation. And I'm not at all surprised that that biatch didn't receive a bid to her legacy house...she was probably thinking she had an automatic bid and was a biatch there too.

ejbiff · #21 08-26-2005, 02:08 PM

This may be a silly question, but I'm going to ask anyway! What is the difference between a direct legacy and an in-house legacy?

TSteven · #22 08-26-2005, 02:17 PM

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Originally posted by ejbiff
This may be a silly question, but I'm going to ask anyway! What is the difference between a direct legacy and an in-house legacy?

A *direct* legacy would follow the specific GLO's legacy policy. (i.e. sister, mother, grandmother etc.)

An *in-house* legacy means that the legacy (i.e. sister, mother, grandmother etc.) was a member of the specific chapter where the PNM is rushing.

Example: PNM Jane's mom is an ABC and was initiated into Big State U.'s XY chapter. This makes Jane a direct legacy to ABC regardless of the campus. Jane decides to attend Big State U. like her Momma. This makes Jane an *in-house* legacy to the XY chapter of ABC.

Jhawkalum · #23 08-26-2005, 02:45 PM

A chapter at my school only put their "in-house" legacies at the top of their bid lists, but it wasn't public knowledge. I don't know if it was because they had so many legacies go through rush each year -- or if they believed that their sister chapters weren't as good.

Either way, some women who were "direct legacies" went through pref there and were pretty surprised to open their bids and see that they didn't get that house.

When I was in school, it was thought that if you went through pref round and you were a legacy, you were basically guaranteed a bid. Not with this chapter!

irishpipes · #24 08-26-2005, 02:46 PM

My understading is that an in-house legacy means that your older sister is currently in the chapter you are rushing.

KSUViolet06 · #25 08-26-2005, 02:53 PM

Chapters here at Kent don't view legacies to other chapters as 'off limits'. If anything, we look at them as a welcomed challenge. If you're a legacy to a KSU sorority, you most likely will get a bid to your legacy group, unless you cut them.

TSteven · #26 08-26-2005, 03:09 PM

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Originally posted by irishpipes
My understading is that an in-house legacy means that your older sister is currently in the chapter you are rushing.

While I heard it the other way, this actually makes much more sense. That *in-house* means that there is a legacy currently a member of the chapter.

Perhaps the example I was given - a relative that was a member of the chapter (i.e. Mom) - should be refereed to as a *chapter* legacy.

Lindz928 · #27 08-26-2005, 03:17 PM

Our chapter called it a "sitting sister" if a PNM had an active sister in a house. Maybe that would be more clear.

adpiucf · #28 08-26-2005, 03:34 PM

Sorry! I'm using UCF-speak. At my chapter, Direct would mean you're a legacy to that chapter specifically. In-house means your sister is still in the chapter. I apologize for the confusion!!!

ejbiff · #29 08-26-2005, 07:29 PM

Thanks for the clarification!

TSteven · #30 08-26-2005, 08:25 PM

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Originally posted by adpiucf
Sorry! I'm using UCF-speak. At my chapter, Direct would mean you're a legacy to that chapter specifically. In-house means your sister is still in the chapter. I apologize for the confusion!!!

Just goes to show that individual chapters - at different campuses and of different GLOs - may differ.