GreekChat.com Forums  

Go Back   GreekChat.com Forums > General Chat Topics > Entertainment
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Entertainment TV, movies, music, books, sports, radio...

» GC Stats
Members: 329,724
Threads: 115,665
Posts: 2,204,964
Welcome to our newest member, zaustinmarleyoz
» Online Users: 1,463
1 members and 1,462 guests
Cookiez17
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 09-07-2005, 12:57 PM
BetteDavisEyes BetteDavisEyes is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: USS Insanity
Posts: 4,970
I also found this one


From her birth on the 21st of September, 1952, Anneliese Michel enjoyed the life of a normal, religiously nurtured young girl. Without warning, her life changed on a day in 1968 when she began shaking and found she was unable to control her body. She could not call out for her parents, Josef and Anna, or any of her 3 sisters. A neurologist at the Psychiatric Clinic Wurzburg diagnosed her with "Grand Mal" epilepsy. Because of the strength of the epileptic fits, and the severity of the depression that followed, Anneliese was admitted for treatment at the hospital.

Soon after the attacks began, Anneliese started seeing devilish grimaces during her daily praying. It was the fall of 1970, and while the young people of the world were enjoying the liberal freedoms of the time, Anneliese was battling with the belief that she was possessed. It seemed there was no other explanation for the appearance of devilish visions during her prayers. Voices also began following her, saying Anneliese will "stew in hell". She mentioned the "demons" to the doctors only once, explaining that they have started to give her orders. The doctors seem unable to help, and Anneliese lost hope that medicine was going to be able to cure her.

In the summer of 1973, her parents visited different pastors to request an exorcism. Their requests were rejected and they were given recommendations that the now 20 year old Anneliese should continue with medication and treatment. It was explained that the process by which the Church proves a possession (Infestatio) is strictly defined, and until all the criterium is met, a Bishop can not approve an exorcism. The requirements, to name a few, include an aversion to religious objects, speaking in a language the person has never learned, and supernatural powers.

In 1974, after supervising Anneliese for some time, Pastor Ernst Alt requested a permit to perform the exorcism from the Bishop of Wurzburg. The request was rejected, and a recommendation soon followed saying that Anneliese should live even more of a religious lifestyle in order to find peace. The attacks did not diminish, and her behavior become more irratic. At her parents house in Klingenberg, she insulted, beat, and began biting the other members of her family. She refused to eat because the demons would not allow it. Anneliese slept on the stone floor, ate spiders, flies, and coal, and even began drinking her own urine. She could be heard screaming throughout the house for hours while breaking crucifixes, destroying paintings of Jesus, and pulling apart rosaries. Anneliese began committing acts of self-mutilation at this time, and the act of tearing off her clothes and urinating on the floor became commonplace.

After making an exact verification of the possession in September 1975, the Bishop of Wurzburg, Josef Stangl, assigned Father Arnold Renz and Pastor Ernst Alt with the order to perform "The Great Exorcism" on Anneliese Michel. The basis for this ritual was the "Rituale Romanum", which was still, at the time, a valid Cannon Law from the 17th century. It was determined that Anneliese must be saved from the possession by several demons, including Lucifer, Judas Iscariot, Nero, Cain, Hitler, and Fleischmann, a disgraced Frankish Priest from the 16th century, and some other damned souls which had manifested through her. From September '75 until July '76, one or two exorcism sessions were held each week. Anneliese's attacks were sometimes so strong that she would have to be held down by 3 men, or even chained up. During this time, Anneliese found her life somewhat return to normal as she could again go to school, take final examinations at the Pedagogic Academy in Wurzburg, and go to church.

The attacks, however, did not stop. In fact, she would more often find herself paralyzed and falling unconscious than before. The exorcism continued over many months, always with the same prayers and incantations. Sometimes family members and visitors, like one married couple that claims to have "discovered" Anneliese, would be present during the rituals. For several weeks, Anneliese denied all food. Her knees ruptured due to the 600 genuflections she performed obsessively during the daily exorcism. Over 40 audio tapes record the process, in order to preserve the details.

The last day of the Exorcism Rite was on June 30th, 1976, and Anneliese was suffering at this point from Pneumonia. She was also totally emaciated, and running a high fever. Exhausted and unable to physically perform the genuflections herself, her parents stood in and helped carry her through the motions. "Beg for Absolution" is the last statement Anneliese made to the exorcists. To her mother, she said, "Mother, I'm afraid." Anna Michel recorded the death of her daughter on the following day, July 1st, 1976, and at noon, Pastor Ernst Alt informed the authorities in Aschaffenburg. The senior prosecutor began investigating immediately.

A short time before these final events unfolded, William Friedkin's "The Exorcist" (1974) came to the cinemas in Germany, bringing with it a wave of paranormal hysteria that flooded the nation. Psychiatrists all over Europe reported an increase of obsessive ideas among their patients. Prosecutors took more than 2 years to to take Annaliese's case to court, using that time to sort through the bizarre facts. Anneliese's parents and the two exorcists were accused of negligent homocide. The "Klingenberg Case" would be decided upon two questions: What caused the death of Anneliese Michel, and who was responsible?

According the forensic evidence, "Anneliese starved to death". Specialists claimed that if the accused would have begun with forced feeding one week before her death, Anneliese's life would have been saved. One sister told the court that Anneliese did not want to go to a mental home where she would be sedated and forced to eat. The exorcists tried to prove the presence of the demons, playing taped recordings of strange dialogues like that of two demons arguing about which one of them would have to leave Anneliese's body first. One of the demons called himself Hitler, and spoke with a Frankish accent (Hitler was born in Austria). Not one of those present during the exorcism ever had a doubt about the authenticity of the presence of these demons.

The psychiatrists, whom had been ordered to testify by the court, spoke about the "Doctrinaire Induction". They said that the priests had provided Anneliese with the contents of her psychotic behavior. Consequentially, they claimed, she later accepted her behavior as a form of demonic possession. They also offered that Anneliese's unsettled sexual development, along with her diagnosed Temporal Lobe Epilepsy, had influenced the psychosis.

The verdict was considered by many as not as harsh as they expected. Anneliese's parents, as well as the exorcists, were found guilty of manslaughter resulting from negligence and omitting first aid. They were sentenced to 6 months in jail and probation. The verdict included the opinion of the court that the accused should have helped by taking care of the medical treatment that the girl needed, but instead, their use of naive practices aggrivated Anneliese's already poor constitution.

A commission of the German Bishop-Conference later declared that Anneliese Michel was not possessed, however, this did not keep believers from supporting her struggles, and it was because so many believed in her that Anneliese's body did not find peace with death. Her corpse was exhumed eleven and a half years after her burial, only to confirm that it had decayed as would have been expected under normal circumstances. Today, her grave remains a place of pilgrimage for rosary-praying and for those who believe that Anneliese Michel bravely fought the devil.

In 1999, Cardinal Medina Estevez presented journalists in Vatican-City the new version of the "Rituale Romanum" that has been used by the Catholic Church since 1614. The updates came after more than 10 years of editing and is called "De exorcismis et supplicationibus quibusdam" otherwise known as "The exorcism for the upcoming millennium". The Pope approbated the new Exorcism Rite, which is now allowed for worldwide use. This new form of exorcism came after the German Bishop-Conference demanded to ultimately abolish the "Rituale Romun". It also came more than 20 years after Anneliese Michel had died.
__________________
By the time a woman realizes her mother was right, she has a daughter who thinks she is wrong.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 09-07-2005, 05:24 PM
Lindz928 Lindz928 is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 2,377
Quote:
Originally posted by BetteDavisEyes
They also offered that Anneliese's unsettled sexual development, along with her diagnosed Temporal Lobe Epilepsy, had influenced the psychosis.

So keep this in mind kiddos- If you want to avoid being possessed by the devil, make sure and have lots of sex so that you will be "sexually developed".

Ok, just kidding. Her story is really interesting. I love scary movies- I hope this one is good!
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 09-09-2005, 02:18 AM
BobbyTheDon BobbyTheDon is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,531
man. Why do they always show the commercial for this movie really late at night when I turn off all the lights and am about to go to bed.

I get soooo scarrrred I always turn the channel immediately, but not before i hear her screaming " GAAAHHHH!!!!!!!" and some devilish face appears.

I try and cover my eyes and ears but dammit, it still plays in my head.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 09-09-2005, 12:17 PM
BetteDavisEyes BetteDavisEyes is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: USS Insanity
Posts: 4,970
I hear you. The worst for me was when I was online the other night w/the lights off & the TV on for background noise. I heard the damn commercial, freaked, & dropped the remote control. I just ran out of the room b/c I am not ashamed to admit that I'm a big chicken.
__________________
By the time a woman realizes her mother was right, she has a daughter who thinks she is wrong.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 09-09-2005, 10:32 PM
AChiOAlumna AChiOAlumna is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 383
The actress who plays Emily Rose was on my radio station this morning. She states that she's heard pieces of the actual tape and that it's the only exorcism that the Catholic Church (aka the Vatican) has acknowledged. It sounds like it's pretty legit, but what do I know??
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 09-13-2005, 04:24 PM
Tickled Pink 2 Tickled Pink 2 is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Insomnia
Posts: 979
Quote:
Originally posted by BetteDavisEyes
I hear you. The worst for me was when I was online the other night w/the lights off & the TV on for background noise. I heard the damn commercial, freaked, & dropped the remote control. I just ran out of the room b/c I am not ashamed to admit that I'm a big chicken.
I feel accosted whenever they play that commercial. If I want to hear it - I'll go see the movie (which I won't). I still won't look at Exorcist. Too real for me.

ETA: 2nd big chicken asking: did anyone see the movie?
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 09-13-2005, 05:07 PM
PM_Mama00 PM_Mama00 is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Michigan
Posts: 5,807
Send a message via AIM to PM_Mama00 Send a message via Yahoo to PM_Mama00
I prolly beat yall out for biggest chicken. I refuse to go see this movie because I'm afraid that I will start having dreams of the devil and stuff. I'm a big chicken shit.
__________________
Proud to be a Macon Magnolia!

KLTC
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 09-13-2005, 05:15 PM
Lindz928 Lindz928 is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 2,377
So this is what I heard about the movie..... Don't read if you don't want to know.






I heard it sucked big time. What I was TOLD (it could be wrong) was that the scary images you see in the commercial are the only scary things in the movie. Apparently the rest of the movie takes place in a court room and shows testimony and stuff. Again, I have no idea if this is true or not, just what I heard from someone who heard it from someone who saw it.

If this is true I am going to be highly disappointed.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 09-13-2005, 05:21 PM
ADPiAkron ADPiAkron is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,654
Quote:
Originally posted by LightBulb
Wow... I once thought of naming my daughter Emily Rose. No freakin way now.

Besides, that was a while back... I now wanna call her Daisy Jane. (No, I'm not pregnant; this is just a sometime in the indefinite future kind of thing.)
That is so funny because my best friend is due in December and was going to name her baby Emily Rose after her grandmother Emily and his grandmother Rose. There are other reasons she has changed her mind-- but she did mention this movie as one of them!! haha
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 09-13-2005, 05:22 PM
ADPiAkron ADPiAkron is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,654
Quote:
Originally posted by PM_Mama00
I prolly beat yall out for biggest chicken. I refuse to go see this movie because I'm afraid that I will start having dreams of the devil and stuff. I'm a big chicken shit.
I second the chicken shit!! As you may have seen in another thread about things we were afraid of as kids- I mentioned I was and still am afraid of the dark!! Can you imagine if I saw a movie like this!!??
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 09-14-2005, 06:51 PM
SSS1365 SSS1365 is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 1,610
Quote:
Originally posted by Lindz928
So this is what I heard about the movie..... Don't read if you don't want to know.






I heard it sucked big time. What I was TOLD (it could be wrong) was that the scary images you see in the commercial are the only scary things in the movie. Apparently the rest of the movie takes place in a court room and shows testimony and stuff. Again, I have no idea if this is true or not, just what I heard from someone who heard it from someone who saw it.

If this is true I am going to be highly disappointed.
I heard that too, and I actually read it in a critic's review. So I think it's safe to say it's true.

But I'm still not going to see it, because I can't even watch the trailer without being freaked out! I'm another one of those that's still afraid of the dark... When my husband works the night shift, I sleep with the hallway light on and my bedroom door open!
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 09-14-2005, 07:24 PM
PM_Mama00 PM_Mama00 is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Michigan
Posts: 5,807
Send a message via AIM to PM_Mama00 Send a message via Yahoo to PM_Mama00
WTF. My best friend is making me go see this tonite. I'm gona wear some diapers. I'm hoping she oversleeps her nap so we miss the time.

ETA: Phew. she didn't wana go!
__________________
Proud to be a Macon Magnolia!

KLTC

Last edited by PM_Mama00; 09-14-2005 at 11:23 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 09-15-2005, 09:50 AM
Lindz928 Lindz928 is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 2,377
Quote:
Originally posted by PM_Mama00
I'm gona wear some diapers.

Haha. This actually made me laugh out loud. Thanks!!!
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 09-16-2005, 08:04 AM
starang21 starang21 is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: cobb
Posts: 5,367
http://www.fotofetch.com/
__________________
my signature sucks
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:15 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.