Scientology....thoughts?

[James]

Also keep in mind that the guy has been dead a long time and somehow he keeps producing books and such . . . he is more productive from beyond the grave than many living.

[kddani]

Originally posted by James
Also keep in mind that the guy has been dead a long time and somehow he keeps producing books and such . . . he is more productive from beyond the grave than many living.

kinda like Tupac. Those two, Elvis, and a bunch of other supposedly dead famous people are all living on a tropical island somewhere, lol

[James]

Must be a lively crew lol

Originally posted by kddani
kinda like Tupac. Those two, Elvis, and a bunch of other supposedly dead famous people are all living on a tropical island somewhere, lol

[preciousjeni]

Was reading and found this...

Fair Game Policy

Fair Game, the notorious Scientology policy describing how to deal with critics, ex-members, and other undesirables dehumanized with the label ''Suppressives''; they may be ''Sued, tricked, lied to, or destroyed,'' as per policy. A more recent policy has banished the WORDS ''Fair Game'', but the policy of what to do to these ''SPs'' or ''Suppressives'' cannot ever be cancelled, as it is Hubbardian scripture, and his words cannot ever be altered in any way per Scientology's policy. [Usage example:] ''Dennis Erlich, being an SP, is subject to Fair Game.''
ARS Acronym/Terminology FAQ v3.5

Scientologists claim that "Fair Game" was cancelled in the late sixties but,

Fair Game was NOT cancelled. The TERM ''Fair Game'' may not appear Ethics Orders because ''it causes bad public relations.'' Read this carefully:

From HCO Policy Letter of 21 October 1968:

''The practice of declaring people FAIR GAME will cease. FAIR GAME may not appear on any Ethics Order. It causes bad public relations.''

''This P/L does not cancel any policy on the treatment or handling of an SP.''

(SP = Suppressive Person, an Enemy of Scientology)

In other words, ''HCO Policy Letter of 18 October 1967, Issue IV'' (the ''sued, lied to, tricked, destroyed'' policy which was quoted by Anton above) is still in effect. There are also numerous recent examples of Fair Game being carried out.

So, not only is CofS, Inc. not believable by their reputation and actions, the ''Cancellation'' policy is a deliberate MISQUOTE of the actual policy. The reason for the ''Cancellation'' is not because it was the Right Thing to do, but because Fair Game causes negative publicity!

Perry Scott, email to AR-vent, Mar. 21, 2001

Dead Agenting

D/A, verb. Dead Agent; to spread malicious lies and rumors about an Anti-Scientologist person or organization, in an attempt to so thoroughly discredit them that everyone concerned will be disgusted with them, and not listen to the information they have to give about the cult. Many attempts to Dead Agent the recently destroyed CAN (the Cult Awareness Network) and FACTnet (Fight Against Coercive Tactics network; a BBS that supplies information about the cult) have been posted to ars. (alt.religion.scientology)
ARS Acronym/Terminology FAQ v3.5

From: apologeticsindex.org

[honeychile]

FWIW, my brother knew someone who became a Scientologist when he lived in Colorado. When this guy (who had just inherited a fortune) decided to leave the "church", he found live rattlesnakes in his mailbox on a daily basis. That alone was enough for me to believe that they're nutjobs!

[Sistermadly]

Dude. Clams. They think we came from CLAMS. I'm scared that if I walk by one of their centers they'll try to throw some tartar sauce on me or something.

[Tom Earp]

Ah, Yes, but did have some Great Stuff to say, and had one heck of a radio voice tho!

Thought all He wanted was $$$$$$!

Was interesting read though!

[Lady Pi Phi]

Originally posted by AOIIsilver
Quoi?
Silver

It's in the TIME article MysticCat posted in the Tom Cruise & Katie Holmes thread.

[ee744]

Dianetics/the bible both great fiction works, although I think the bible is a bit of a better read.

[DZTUBAGIRL]

Ok, does anyone know exactly what they believe? I looked on the website and I coudn't really find an explination of their religion. Someone told me something about them believing that we all have aliens living in us and that is why we get sick. I don't know if this is true but if it is...they are "special". If anyone can clear it up that would be great. Thanks!

[preciousjeni]

Originally posted by DZTUBAGIRL
Ok, does anyone know exactly what they believe? I looked on the website and I coudn't really find an explination of their religion. Someone told me something about them believing that we all have aliens living in us and that is why we get sick. I don't know if this is true but if it is...they are "special". If anyone can clear it up that would be great. Thanks!

I would check this out: http://religiousmovements.lib.virgin...ientology.html

In short:

Scientologists believe that the levels of Scientology beyond "clear" allow an individual to progress up the "bridge of total freedom"; freedom from physical constraints of their material bodies and the material universe, which Scientologists call MEST (Matter, Energy, Space, and Time). Scientologists who progress up the OT (Operating Thetan) Bridge may "know...immortality and freedom from the cycle of birth and death," according to " The State of Operating Thetan," a Church document. 28 Thus, the individual's goal in Scientology is to come into full awareness of his existence as a being who transcends MEST. Scientology, in sum, is a religious movement that professes to guide the journey of the individual towards a state of transcendent near-perfection.

As Scientologists progress up the Bridge, they learn the details of Hubbard's cosmology, which articulates a many-trillion-year history similar to the "galactic space opera" of Hubbard's prolific science-fiction efforts. Operating Thetan Level III ( NOT a link to the actual document, but rather to an independent summary of it), which details how, when, and why humans came to Earth, is a good sample of this cosmology. 29

The symbol for Dianetics is shaped like the Greek letter delta, with yellow stripes symbolizing life and four green panels, representing four subdivisions of the urge for man's survival. The Eight Dynamics of Scientology continue Hubbard's examination into the importance of survival. The Eight Dynamics (in order) are Self, Creativity, Group Survival, Species, Life Forms, Physical Universe, Spiritual Dynamic, and Infinity. 30 Each of these pertains to the role of survival of each of these components. The Eight Dynamics transcend throughout all of nature, including animals and vegetation, and beyond.

[valkyrie]

It sounds kind of like some sci-fi geek smoked some crack and tried to rip off Buddhism while adding special effects.

[KSigkid]

The church owns a whole bunch of land in Boston, including an area called "Scientology Plaza" with a fountain/wading pool. It's actually pretty impressive, and it's right in Boston's downtown/Copley Square area.

Another note - Earl Cooley, who was the chairman of the Boston University board of trustees for a number of years, was an attorney for the Church of Scientology. I know some students were upset that he had such a position of power and was connected with the church.

[RedRoseSAI]

Who remembers the TV commercial for "Dianetics"? Ah, the erupting volcano, etc....


Edited b/c I misspelled "Dianetics"...guess I wouldn't be a very good Scientologist.

[preciousjeni]

Originally posted by RedRoseSAI
Who remembers the TV commercial for "Dianetics"? Ah, the erupting volcano, etc....


Edited b/c I misspelled "Dianetics"...guess I wouldn't be a very good Scientologist.

I remember it! I used to be like - what in the world? - and I really wanted to order it just to find out what all the hype was about. I only recently realized the connection.