boston college

[Senusret I]

Originally posted by alum
Georgetown University...

...has Alpha Epsilon Pi and Sigma Phi Epsilon in their own self-contained chapters; and Alpha Phi Alpha, Alpha Kappa Alpha, Delta Sigma Theta, and Kappa Alpha Psi as part of city-wide or core chapters. None "recognized" but ALL exist and thrive there.

I am an alumnus of Georgetown University.

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Signed,
OTW
(who would have gone to a Catholic university if I had the $$$ at that time)

[Drolefille]

St. Louis University (Jesuit) is also expanding with a new chapter (NPC) coming on in 2007. We also just chartered/colonized and all that a new fraternity in the past couple years and 4 years ago SAE was relatively new on campus. Greek life isn't huge there but it is by no means stifled.

(they haven't presented yet at SLU but there was an urge to bring Tri-Delt or DZ to campus a few years ago. Also, I don't know if there'll be an upside or a downside to having another chapter in the city at Wash U or UMSL. )

[Tom Earp]

Is it such a problem that a few Roman Catholic Schools do not allow Greeks?

In My Mind Yes, but I am sure they have their own agenda what ever it is with different Groups. I am sure they do not want for $$$ to The Colleges Funds.


Just being a Religious Affiliated School doesnt mean that We as Greeks have to be there as to many other Schools that We are welcomed! Some Schools are smarter and have bigger a scope than others


So, lets not go to those that dont want us!

[kitten03]

As an undergrad I attended BC (Go Eagles). There are no chapters of greek life on campus at all. As someone said, there are city wide chapters of sororities and frats but none in house at BC. I think the reasoning is several things. Liability for having a greek life system when we(as BC students) have a prominent drinking culture. Also, as other catholic schools don't have greek life, they streamline with other catholic institutions.

There was a question about whether BC students miss greeklife. Generally I would say no. I would have loved to go greek as an undergrad but that didn't happen and there's no love lost. There are so many things to do on campus that greeklife would just be more on top.

But back to the original poster, I might be able to help. I graduated 2003

[KSigkid]

Originally posted by kitten03
As an undergrad I attended BC (Go Eagles). There are no chapters of greek life on campus at all. As someone said, there are city wide chapters of sororities and frats but none in house at BC. I think the reasoning is several things. Liability for having a greek life system when we(as BC students) have a prominent drinking culture. Also, as other catholic schools don't have greek life, they streamline with other catholic institutions.

There was a question about whether BC students miss greeklife. Generally I would say no. I would have loved to go greek as an undergrad but that didn't happen and there's no love lost. There are so many things to do on campus that greeklife would just be more on top.

But back to the original poster, I might be able to help. I graduated 2003

I actually had a couple of friends who graduated '03 as well; almost went there myself, but no journalism program to speak of (although I hear the communications department has made strides).

I'm not sure I would say BC has anymore prominent of a drinking culture than any other university in the area. Part of it may be that the school is in a wealthy area (Newton/Chestnut Hill), and the neighbors would raise a ruckus (although I imagine many of them were Greek at their schools). I do think however that it will be a cold day in you know where before that administration would allow Greek Life on campus.

[sdbeta1]

I think generalizations are arising by the fact that the two most prominent catholic universities, Notre Dame and Boston College do not allow greek life. I would have to argue that catholic universities do not have anything to gain from greek life, they both possess similar missions in dealing with academics and the community. As a matter of fact, I come from a catholic university with a greek system. They live!

[cp00]

I graduated from BC was in a fraternity. One night I went to a party at BU's Sigma chi house with some girls I was friends with. My brother has been a Sig at Tulane and i ended up meeting some of the brothers. As it turned out, they had a history of periodically giving bids to guys from BC and offered me one. I liked the guys and figured why not? Anyway, i ended up getting initiated. It ended up working out very well. I still lived at BC (and most of my closest friends were there), but I still had the EX side to my life as well. It helped me meet more people and hooked me up with a great job as a barback at a club in downtown boston. I even became great friends with a guy who had been a Sig at GW in DC and transferred to BC suring our junior year. BC is a school where greek life would flourish. all it would take would be for some enterprising undergrads to get a group of people together and petition some national fraternities to start a colony. I know that both Sigma Chi and SAE were very interested a few years back. The administration will never go for it, but that really idn;t a deal breaker. Sigma Chi has a few chapters that aren't affiliated with a university - Harvard for one, comes to mind. I also know that both EX and SAE at BU will give bids to BC students as well. SAE is a "boston wide" chapter at the moment which means tha they'll accept anyone from any school. People could just pledge there, get initiated and start chapters back at BC if they want. just an idea...

[firecracker08]

Originally posted by KSigkid
I do think however that it will be a cold day in you know where before that administration would allow Greek Life on campus.

I think this is much more of a concern than having national sororities and frats petition to start a colony(forgive me if I'm not using the proper phrasing). The greek system is not new so I believe that plenty of students have tried to make BC open to Greek Life. The administration is deadset against it though.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by cp00

I graduated from BC was in a fraternity. One night I went to a party at BU's Sigma chi house with some girls I was friends with. My brother has been a Sig at Tulane and i ended up meeting some of the brothers. As it turned out, they had a history of periodically giving bids to guys from BC and offered me one. I liked the guys and figured why not? Anyway, i ended up getting initiated. It ended up working out very well. I still lived at BC (and most of my closest friends were there), but I still had the EX side to my life as well. It helped me meet more people and hooked me up with a great job as a barback at a club in downtown boston. I even became great friends with a guy who had been a Sig at GW in DC and transferred to BC suring our junior year. BC is a school where greek life would flourish. all it would take would be for some enterprising undergrads to get a group of people together and petition some national fraternities to start a colony. I know that both Sigma Chi and SAE were very interested a few years back. The administration will never go for it, but that really idn;t a deal breaker. Sigma Chi has a few chapters that aren't affiliated with a university - Harvard for one, comes to mind. I also know that both EX and SAE at BU will give bids to BC students as well. SAE is a "boston wide" chapter at the moment which means tha they'll accept anyone from any school. People could just pledge there, get initiated and start chapters back at BC if they want. just an idea...

Interesting - I got to deal a bit with the Sigma Chi president when I was president of my chapter at Boston U., and he was always a great guy to deal with in interfraternal situations.

I didn't realize SAE was a city-wide chapter. Since when has that been the case? When I was in school (99-03), it was a BU-only chapter (not recognized by the university, but recognized by SAE international office). I didn't realize Sigma Chi had a policy of giving bids at other schools.

We had a guy from BC, but he started out at BU, pledged while at BU, and then transferred to BC after he had been initiated.

I agree that the administration would never go for it. It would take having houses off-campus (similar to what Boston U. does), and the organizations would have to be self-sufficient, i.e. able to run with no help at all from the college. I'm not sure how Rush would work, as BC would almost certainly restrict advertising on campus. It may even have to be a word-of-mouth thing.

I agree that the students would be all for Greek life. It seems like the perfect place to start up from that perspective, but the administration would be a hurdle.

[irishpipes]

Originally Posted by sdbeta1

I think generalizations are arising by the fact that the two most prominent catholic universities, Notre Dame and Boston College do not allow greek life. I would have to argue that catholic universities do not have anything to gain from greek life, they both possess similar missions in dealing with academics and the community. As a matter of fact, I come from a catholic university with a greek system. They live!

I would have to argue that BC is not one of "the two most prominent" Catholic universities! Nothing against BC, but others come to mind as more prominent.

[Peaches-n-Cream]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

I would have to argue that BC is not one of "the two most prominent" Catholic universities! Nothing against BC, but others come to mind as more prominent.

I'm thinking Notre Dame and Georgetown.

[alum]

The College of the Holy Cross in central Mass is considered to be much more academic than BC.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by alum

The College of the Holy Cross in central Mass is considered to be much more academic than BC.

"academic" doesn't = "prominent." I've never heard of this Holy Cross place.

[SiempreCansada]

Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

DePaul! Duquesne! Creighton! John Carroll! Loras! Rockhurst! St. Louis! Santa Clara! Seton Hall! St. John's! St. Mary's in Texas! San Diego! Incarnate Word! Villanova! Xavier!

But yeah, Catholics are not so down with Greek life. Except for Theta Phi Alpha, Kappa Beta Gamma, Phi Kappa Theta...

There are several Catholic Women at Rockhurst that are in Delta Xi Phi, Alpha Sigma Alpha, and Zeta Tau Alpha.