Sigma Chi - Chico: "initiation week" - Page 2

AlphaPhiBubbles · #16 06-18-2005, 05:47 PM

Many fraternities on campus had butte college students as members...something that has now been banned.

On a personal note, i am friends with Kevin Hallmeyer, the Sigma Chi being accused of giving alcohol to the student that almost died, and he is one of the sweetest guys I know. I'm sure whatever context this incident occured in (and let me assure you I probably know more about it than any of you will read in the paper) it was not with the intent of anyone getting hurt. I cannot imagine Kevin even yelling at anyone, it is just probably one of those things where "they" need someone to blame in the situation. But let me also say that Sigma Chi has taken steps in all the right directions to mend this, more so then any other group I have seen so far.

I also wanted to add that I don't know the young man who was taken to the hospital, but in reading some of his testimony it sure sounds like this could have been something he was willing to go along with at first, and now that it got out of hand he is quick to blame Sigma Chi members. Just my personal opinion.

snooky · #17 06-18-2005, 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by exlurker
Good question, NebraskaDelt! The deal is, the Chico Sigma Chi chapter apparently took some Butte College students as members. Since that was not allowed by Sigma Chi's national bylaws, they had to kick out four members when Sigma Chi HQ found out. This is mentioned in a "year in review" article in the Chico student paper -- check out the short paragraph headed "Feb. 16" at:

http://www.orion-online.net/vnews/di.../4283b47f06e04

or search Google News for some combination of the three words "Butte Sigma Chi"

So it doesn't sound improbable at all that they would have been pledging/hazing a Butte student. Unpleasant, but not improbable.

snooky · #18 06-18-2005, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by NebraskaDelt
Maybe I missed something in the article, but why were Sigma Chi members hazing someone that went to another college? The article says the victim attended Butte College, which is in Oroville.

Defunct Cal Poly at SLO Sigma Chi also took in students from Cuesta Jr. College.

dxp_tiktok · #19 07-06-2005, 05:34 PM

It's pretty tough for Greeks at CSU Chico right now. Our chapter is not allowed to recruit this Fall.

LittleGirl · #20 07-06-2005, 05:44 PM

President Zingg is very serious about reform. Hopefully, the good that will come of Pi Phi being gone will be other houses taking all of the changes seriously.

dxp_tiktok · #21 07-06-2005, 06:02 PM

I agree! This will definitely help CSUC's current orgs become better.

LittleGirl · #22 07-06-2005, 06:07 PM

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Originally posted by dxp_tiktok
I agree! This will definitely help CSUC's current orgs become better.

well, or there won't be any orgs

AlphaPhiBubbles · #23 07-07-2005, 08:00 PM

I'm not sure if someone had already answered this....but many of the IFC fraternities had members that went to Butte College, the local community college in Chico. After all the "crap" Zingg said no more Butte student fraternity members.

I get the feeling we just aren't going to have a greek system anymore. At least on a national level. Students at Chico state don't tend to take much seriously (myself included)...

norcalKAO · #24 07-08-2005, 01:42 AM

This may be a little off topic, but I have to say that it is truly sad that the Greek System appears to be disappearing in Chico over the lack of good judgment by others. I don’t know if it helps any Chico Greeks, but I remember coming there for my friend’s graduation in May, and hearing almost everywhere that several chapters were shut down, or being shut down. So of course I asked my friend about it, and she told me something about the greek houses being in the way of President Zingg campus expansion plans. I know it sounds out there, especially since the only connection I could think of was all the bad press coming out of Chico this past year, but she showed me the models she was working on for the campus, and it seriously is beginning to look like Zingg is using the circumstances to expand the campus without contradiction. In which case, I feel sorry for the Chico Greeks because it’s almost like you guys are caught in the middle.

Nichole

Tom Earp · #25 07-08-2005, 04:31 PM

Interesting to say the least.

Sounds like the Dude doesnt need any help as Greeks are stepping all over themselves just screwing up!

While not all are doing it, there are enought that are that just lay a pile of crap to be brought back on all. Shit Hits The Fan, it splatters on all Greeks!

navane · #26 07-08-2005, 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by Tom Earp
Sounds like the Dude doesnt need any help as Greeks are stepping all over themselves just screwing up!

norcalKAO, I have to agree with Tom on this. I would have no patience for the Chico Greek community if they started saying, "The university's only 'harassing' us because they want to expand their building projects. They're kicking us off because they want our land."

No, they're 'harassing' you because you're killing each other.

Do the Greeks think that the university *feels good* about seeing their name in the paper all the time with such bad press?? Perhaps it's time for the Greeks to take RESPONSIBILITY for themselves and not blame others for their bad behaviour. Maybe your friend should concentrate on trying to make improvements to her chapter, and the Greek system, and worry less about whether or not the university is expanding. Would they rather have non-housed fraternities and sororities....or none at all?

.....Kelly

exlurker · #27 07-08-2005, 08:14 PM

In line with what navane said, it's interesting that the Chico State Panhellenic web site includes this statement (at least it does on 7/8/05):

Many changes are under way for the Chico State Greek System and we welcome these changes with open arms. We look forward to building our Greek system and embracing what is to some.

http://www.chicogreeks.com/pan

As to whether Chico's president has some grand scheme in mind -- of course I don't know. However, I'd guess that any substantial plan would have to win buy-in from all or most of the following: the CSU System trustees, the CSU System bureaucracy, the state legislature, the major political and economic powers in the Chico area, relevant faculty and staff, and local bodies such as zoning boards, neighborhood associations, etc. I could be way off base, but I don't think the president of Chico State has extraordinary powers to impose his will without a lot of support.

dznat187 · #28 07-09-2005, 11:40 PM

2 months in jail and 24 hours of community service??? is that a punishment for almost killing someone who wanted to become a "brother" this is all just ridiculous. i don't care if this kid was a nice guy and im sure he didn't MEAN to hurt anyone, but all greeks are aware of the risks they are putting their new members through by hazing them. maybe they won't ACTUALLY hurt anyone if they just stop being stupid. as far as the VICTIM just finding someone to blame, I find that hard to believe. we just keep making excuses. why not just step up and make some changes. all these chapters made the changes to start hazing. our founders definately did not have that in mind when they founded our organizations.
i know chapters that have eliminated all hazing, mine is one of them, and most are way better off. brothers and sisters who arent hazed are just as dedicated and have just as much brotherhood/sisterhood, if not more.
i can never get past the part that people can do these types of things to new members (aka new brothers/sisters) and then initiate them and become their best friend. can anyone explain that to me. or the other way around-how can you be hazed for 6-8 weeks and then feel like you are joining a family and making best friends. neither my family or my best friends would ever do that to me......maybe i just don't get it.....

AlphaPhiBubbles · #29 07-14-2005, 02:30 AM

Ok I'm back...can't stay away from the Chico threads.

First of all you guys are listening to rumors posted on this board by people who never went and do not now attend Chico State or have any affiliation. There are no building plans that Zingg is trying to get rid of us for...so shut all that crap up about us "feeling harassed" because of it...I don't even know where you pulled that crap from. I explained full details of why that rumor is false in another thread somewhere...but trust me it isn't true.

Also, boy everyone sure is quick to point fingers at other greeks when I know for a fact that there is no perfect greek system. The Chi Tau death, as if I have to remind people, wasn't technically part of our "greek system"...no one was overseeing those boys they were regulating themselves and we as the greek community did everything we could but the university and the city refused to help us more.

As for Sigma Chi. Yup they screwed up big time. I think they deserve suspension and whatever else they get for punsihment. But at least those boys took immediate steps in the right direction by starting the Lifesaver program at Chico State (drug and alcohol awareness and fundraiser).

As for the Phi Tau porn video...just plain stupid. But not as much of a risk managment issue, more of a standards issue. Still bad, deserves reprimand.

But you know what? The rest of us are doing fine, all our numbers are up, we participate in the campus and community, and I am proud of the chapter i am a part of. We kicked ass in Greek Week and raised a crapload of money for the community despite all the controversy.

exlurker - I don't see what is so interesting about the changes made to the panhellenic website. I guess what I really mean is I don't appreciate the sarcasm I read in your post about it. We are embracing the changes to come - what the hell else should we do? Throw our arms up in defeat?

I am really resenting Greek Chat and all the crap I'm reading lately about this situation as it pertains to me personally. I don't know didilly squat about any other greek system besides Chico and SF State so I wouldn't pass judgement on the bad things happening to greeks there.

And as I've said before - if you really want the truth about this instead of just running your mouth, ASK ME!!!

dxp_tiktok · #30 07-14-2005, 10:19 AM

Thank you Alpha Phi Bubbles...

I met with the Vice President of Student Affairs Jim Moon about 2 weeks ago representing my sorority's National Board during my our national convention on campus. He is the chair of the Greek Task Force. From my conversation with him & Rick Rees (the Asst Director of Student Activities) the Task Force's recommendations are to help chapters make positive changes, not to kick them off. We discussed the various tiers of action that will be taking place. They both were very positive about the future of the Greek system here.

It's very true that bad apples are making the 95% of us suffer. Almost all of the GLOs on campus meet or exceed requirements from the first tier. But you'd have to be a part of the Chico Greek system (Panhel, IFC or Ethnic Greek which we are a part of) to understand it & know what a great campus & community we work with. Outsiders looking in only have bits & pieces of the bigger picture - that's why they judge us.